VHF static
I have head that various types of precipitation can cause static and
have seen it to some extent but last night I think I witnessed it nearly wiped out air ground communications at a major airport when a snow storm passed through the area. The static could be heard on over 50 receivers most of which had their own antenna. Is this possible. Jimmie |
VHF static
JIMMIE wrote:
I have head that various types of precipitation can cause static and have seen it to some extent but last night I think I witnessed it nearly wiped out air ground communications at a major airport when a snow storm passed through the area. The static could be heard on over 50 receivers most of which had their own antenna. Is this possible. Jimmie Yes. Aviation uses AM, so yes you can hear percipitation static and lightning noise and when airborne you can hear it from a long way away. Though generally if the static is really bad you have bigger issues to be concerned about than radio noise. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. |
VHF static
On Mar 2, 2:45*pm, wrote:
JIMMIE wrote: I have head that various types of precipitation can cause static and have seen it to some extent but last night I think I witnessed it nearly wiped out air ground communications at a major airport when a snow storm passed through the area. The static could be heard on over 50 receivers most of which had their own antenna. Is this possible. Jimmie Yes. Aviation uses AM, so yes you can hear percipitation static and lightning noise and when airborne you can hear it from a long way away. Though generally if the static is really bad you have bigger issues to be concerned about than radio noise. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. We dont generallty have a problem with P static during rain but the snow, if that wwas the cause was, breaking the squelch on the receivers. Normally the squelch is set to break at 2uVs. I adjusted the squelch on a rx until it just blanked while listening to the noise then measured the amount of signal from a generator that it would take to breal squelch. The level was about 40uV and the level was continuous for the duration of the storm. Does snow normallly cause more of a static problem than rain? Living in the SOuth snow isnot something I have a lot of experience with. Jimmie |
VHF static
JIMMIE wrote:
Is this possible. I've personally experienced P-static during dust storms and rain storms. Someone reported that he could count the largest snowflakes hitting his antenna just by listening to the radio. -- 73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com "Government 'help' to business is just as disastrous as government persecution..." Ayn Rand |
VHF static
The level was about 40uV and the level was
continuous for the duration of the storm. Does snow normallly cause more of a static problem than rain? Living in the SOuth snow isnot something I have a lot of experience with. Jimmie It is usually very dry when it snows but it can do that with rain too. The charge builds up as it falls and snaps when striking the antenna elements. Smog and dust can do the same thing and we hear that when it is very dry and the wind blows even on weak and long path FM signals. |
VHF static
JB wrote:
It is usually very dry when it snows but it can do that with rain too. The charge builds up as it falls and snaps when striking the antenna elements. Smog and dust can do the same thing and we hear that when it is very dry and the wind blows even on weak and long path FM signals. During an Arizona dust storm, the charged-dust-particles transferred their charges to my G5RV and the disconnected coax connector laying on the floor arced with such intensity that it caused my shag rug to smoke. :-( It was previously arcing across the coax terminal on my IC-745 but apparently didn't cause any damage with the power off. I can imagine what it would have sounded like if I had turned on the power. -- 73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com "Government 'help' to business is just as disastrous as government persecution..." Ayn Rand |
VHF static
"Cecil Moore" wrote in message ... JB wrote: It is usually very dry when it snows but it can do that with rain too. The charge builds up as it falls and snaps when striking the antenna elements. Smog and dust can do the same thing and we hear that when it is very dry and the wind blows even on weak and long path FM signals. During an Arizona dust storm, the charged-dust-particles transferred their charges to my G5RV and the disconnected coax connector laying on the floor arced with such intensity that it caused my shag rug to smoke. :-( It was previously arcing across the coax terminal on my IC-745 but apparently didn't cause any damage with the power off. I can imagine what it would have sounded like if I had turned on the power. Navy ships use whip antennas for HF receive and these are prone to build up static charges unless something is done. The usual solution is a 50K-ohm resistor to ground near the base of the whip, enclosed in what's called a termination box, where coaxial cable is interfaced to the whip. The resistor is usually termed electrostatic discharge protection, or simply the "static drain resistor." |
VHF static
On Mar 3, 11:23*am, Cecil Moore wrote:
JB wrote: It is usually very dry when it snows but it can do that with rain too. *The charge builds up as it falls and snaps when striking the antenna elements. Smog and dust can do the same thing and we hear that when it is very dry and the wind blows even on weak and long path FM signals. During an Arizona dust storm, the charged-dust-particles transferred their charges to my G5RV and the disconnected coax connector laying on the floor arced with such intensity that it caused my shag rug to smoke. :-( It was previously arcing across the coax terminal on my IC-745 but apparently didn't cause any damage with the power off. I can imagine what it would have sounded like if I had turned on the power. -- 73, Cecil *http://www.w5dxp.com "Government 'help' to business is just as disastrous as government persecution..." Ayn Rand Cecil One more time. Unbound static particles rest on diamagnetic materials of which water is one Updraft in a storm collects not only water but also the static particles at rest. When the moisture changes physically( ice , snow etc) and the particles have no room to stand where during to its travels it has gained charge. This conglomeration of charge can transfer to another cloud that is still in the moisture status or down to earth ( diamagnetic material also such as aluminum) when reaching the ground or moisture clouds, It reverts to its static particle status where the charge is then released upwardsto the clouds. The original charge came from the movement of clouds relative to earth and if one consideres the application of G.U.T. ( Grand universal theorem per Einstein and Newton) one can see this as part of applied current which also must include a rotataional force as per displacement current. Review of weather patterns on the TV clearly shows the rotational aspect when weather changes are prevalent. Thus the noise heard on the radio is the dissipation of energy from the charged particle as it reverts to its original static particle orientation when it settles on one antenna. Nuff said |
VHF static
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