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Dave May 3rd 09 12:06 PM

Resonance and equilibrium
 

"Tom Ring" wrote in message
. net...
My designs have taken first place in several antenna competitions in the
"non-commercial" category. And sometimes first second third and fourth


please cite the competition dates and locations, sponsors, and provide a
link to results.


Tom Ring[_2_] May 3rd 09 03:41 PM

Resonance and equilibrium
 
Dave wrote:

please cite the competition dates and locations, sponsors, and provide a
link to results.


You're awfully demanding of information for someone who probably isn't
even named Dave.

Here's one of the years that's available online.

http://www.csvhfs.org/ant/CSANT96.HTML

1st homebrew on 144, 1st overall on 220, 1st 2nd and 4th overall on 432.
The first place antenna on 432 was not usable under any normal
circumstances, and was physically a kludge. 1st on 144 and 4th on 432
were meant to be in a 2x2 array, but work adequately alone.

tom
K0TAR

Art Unwin May 3rd 09 05:40 PM

Resonance and equilibrium
 
On May 3, 9:41*am, Tom Ring wrote:
Dave wrote:

please cite the competition dates and locations, sponsors, and provide a
link to results.


You're awfully demanding of information for someone who probably isn't
even named Dave.

Here's one of the years that's available online.

http://www.csvhfs.org/ant/CSANT96.HTML

1st homebrew on 144, 1st overall on 220, 1st 2nd and 4th overall on 432.
* The first place antenna on 432 was not usable under any normal
circumstances, and was physically a kludge. *1st on 144 and 4th on 432
were meant to be in a 2x2 array, but work adequately alone.

tom
K0TAR


Well I for one will apologize for any disrespect that I have shown
Art

Art Unwin May 3rd 09 05:53 PM

Resonance and equilibrium
 
On May 3, 6:06*am, "Dave" wrote:
"Tom Ring" wrote in message

. net...

My designs have taken first place in several antenna competitions in the
"non-commercial" category. *And sometimes first second third and fourth


please cite the competition dates and locations, sponsors, and provide a
link to results.


Aw common David,
you are much to demanding of notification of other peoples efforts
You are positioning yourself as a judge in these matters yet have
declared no credentials On my antenna I have yet to have a qso with
it. Why ? Because it is my hobby and not to impress others such as
you.When I get my interest back I will go on the air like I did before
my elmer passed,G3IGP. I stopped when I took down my 80 foot boom yagi
with 13 elements made of foil covered fishing poles and now just
experiment and use the laptop

Mike Lucas May 3rd 09 05:57 PM

Resonance and equilibrium
 

"Tom Ring" wrote
1st homebrew on 144, 1st overall on 220, 1st 2nd and 4th overall on 432.
The first place antenna on 432 was not usable under any normal
circumstances, and was physically a kludge. 1st on 144 and 4th on 432
were meant to be in a 2x2 array, but work adequately alone.

tom
K0TAR


yeah, but can you build a 160 thru 10 contra-wound end-fire helical that has
a VSWR less than 2.5 to1 over that range, fits in a shoebox, and has 9+ dBi
gain???? :-)

Mike W5CHR
Memphis



Art Unwin May 3rd 09 07:25 PM

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On May 3, 11:57*am, "Mike Lucas" wrote:
"Tom Ring" wrote

1st homebrew on 144, 1st overall on 220, 1st 2nd and 4th overall on 432..
The first place antenna on 432 was not usable under any normal
circumstances, and was physically a kludge. *1st on 144 and 4th on 432
were meant to be in a 2x2 array, but work adequately alone.


tom
K0TAR


yeah, but can you build a 160 thru 10 contra-wound end-fire helical that has
a VSWR less than 2.5 to1 over that range, fits in a shoebox, and has 9+ dBi
gain???? * *:-)

Mike W5CHR
Memphis


There is aways a first time at least for those that do, others can
stand by and jeer
and sneer from the couch. To do is to over come failure, not to be
defeated by it

Dave May 3rd 09 07:45 PM

Resonance and equilibrium
 

"Tom Ring" wrote in message
. net...
Dave wrote:

please cite the competition dates and locations, sponsors, and provide a
link to results.


You're awfully demanding of information for someone who probably isn't
even named Dave.

Here's one of the years that's available online.

http://www.csvhfs.org/ant/CSANT96.HTML

1st homebrew on 144, 1st overall on 220, 1st 2nd and 4th overall on 432.
The first place antenna on 432 was not usable under any normal
circumstances, and was physically a kludge. 1st on 144 and 4th on 432
were meant to be in a 2x2 array, but work adequately alone.

tom
K0TAR


I'm sorry, i got out of sync and thought that was art bragging about his
antennas... please don't take that as an insult, i was just too quick to
reply.


Sal M. Onella May 4th 09 12:00 AM

Resonance and equilibrium
 

"Art Unwin" wrote in message
...

On my antenna I have yet to have a qso with
it. Why ? Because it is my hobby and not to impress others such as
you.When I get my interest back I will go on the air like I did before
my elmer passed,G3IGP. I stopped when I took down my 80 foot boom yagi
with 13 elements made of foil covered fishing poles and now just
experiment and use the laptop.
=========================================

I looked for this and related postings at rec.fishing.amateur.poles but came
up empty. Strange.

(Did find one guy who tries calling CQ into his tackle box.)



Art Unwin May 4th 09 01:02 AM

Resonance and equilibrium
 
On May 3, 6:00*pm, "Sal M. Onella"
wrote:
"Art Unwin" wrote in message

...

*On my antenna I have yet to have a qso with
it. Why ? Because it is my hobby and not to impress others such as
you.When I get my interest back I will go on the air like I did before
my elmer passed,G3IGP. I stopped when I took down my 80 foot boom yagi
with 13 elements made of foil covered fishing poles and now just
experiment and use the laptop.
*=========================================

I looked for this and related postings at rec.fishing.amateur.poles but came
up empty. *Strange.

(Did find one guy who tries calling CQ into his tackle box.)


Stupidity is spreading! Or was it always there but only now barriers
being broken
and stupid people coming out?

Tom Ring[_2_] May 4th 09 01:21 AM

Resonance and equilibrium
 
Mike Lucas wrote:

yeah, but can you build a 160 thru 10 contra-wound end-fire helical that has
a VSWR less than 2.5 to1 over that range, fits in a shoebox, and has 9+ dBi
gain???? :-)

Mike W5CHR
Memphis



Well, that's easy to answer.

I cannot.

tom
K0TAR

JIMMIE May 4th 09 04:56 AM

Resonance and equilibrium
 
On May 2, 7:24*am, "Dave" wrote:
"JIMMIE" wrote in message

...
On May 1, 7:37 pm, "Dave" wrote:

I dont know if Dave built it or not but I did and tested the beamwidth
just as you said and got 360 degrees. Rotating it had no effect at all
on signal strength. I tried it on 2M and couldnt hit the local
repeater with 1 watt normally I can reach it with 100mW. I would say
this classifies the antenna as a dummy load.


no, i am waiting for the final tweaked design. *if you have built one to
art's specs then you are probably measuring just the side/back lobes, which
is a very good sign. *if it has a pencil beam on 160m, then by the time it
gets to 2m the beam will probably be so thin that it will be like a laser
beam, so you'll have to be pointing it VERY accurately on the repeater. *so
go rotate it again, very slowly and carefully, and don't forget to aim it in
elevation also!


LOL I just built the thing out of boredom and the effects of having a
really nasty cold. It was obvious that the only radiation to speak of
was coming from the coax. I actually heard some pretty strong signals
on 11M with it. They were also very non-directional . When I shorted
the ends of the feedline together and connected it to my tuner it may
actually be mistaken for a viable antenna working about as well as 20
or 30 ft of wire hanging out the window hearing signals on 80 40 20
and 11. It wouldnt suprise me if Art never even built the thing.


JImmie


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