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Gaussian law of statatics extended by adding a time vary field
Years of discussion on this same subject has been a matter of lies,
misinterpretations and a determination to obstruct change. All of these discussion rest on a statement made years ago which has since gone on to many tangential discussions based on untruths. The original statement, made by me was: "If you add a time varying field to the laws of Statics by Gauss the mathematic results are in full conformance with Maxwells laws" It is this statement that the group is up in arms about ! Yet they want me to explain the antenna that is a direct result of the above statement. A statement they refuse to accept where their response has been character assasination which has failed because I am still here. It is a simple statement which is exact and true which all are fighting to prevent this from being accepted. Why? Because of a reluctance to embrace change because of age. Thus for this representative group they are content that all is known as printed in the books and trying to convince the World there is no need for further discussion. So I ask, what is the real reason hams take this position if in fact they are represented by this newsgroup of self perceived experts? |
Gaussian law of statatics extended by adding a time vary field
"Art Unwin" wrote in message ... Years of discussion on this same subject has been a matter of lies, misinterpretations and a determination to obstruct change. All of these discussion rest on a statement made years ago which has since gone on to many tangential discussions based on untruths. The original statement, made by me was: "If you add a time varying field to the laws of Statics by Gauss the mathematic results are in full conformance with Maxwells laws" my statement still stands. Gauss's law IS one of Maxwell's four equations, and it doesn't need you adding a (t) to it to make it work any better than it has for the last hundred years or so. The basis is that Gauss's law is independent of time, so it is true AT ANY TIME, it doesn't need a time parameter to make it work. if you really want to you can add a (t) on both sides of the equation, but it won't change anything, it just clutters up the notation. |
Gaussian law of statatics extended by adding a time vary field
On Sep 5, 4:59*pm, "Dave" wrote:
"Art Unwin" wrote in message ... Years of discussion on this same subject has been a matter of lies, misinterpretations and a determination to obstruct change. All of these discussion rest on a statement made years ago which has since gone on to many tangential discussions based on untruths. * * * *The original statement, made by me was: "If you add a time varying field to the laws of Statics by Gauss the mathematic results are in full conformance with Maxwells laws" my statement still stands. *Gauss's law IS one of Maxwell's four equations, and it doesn't need you adding a (t) to it to make it work any better than it has for the last hundred years or so. *The basis is that Gauss's law is independent of time, so it is true AT ANY TIME, it doesn't need a time parameter to make it work. *if you really want to you can add a (t) on both sides of the equation, but it won't change anything, it just clutters up the notation. O.K. No problem Now let us see what others have to say. After all it is a academic question related to electrical engineering and there are many engineers around beyond the self perceived versions. |
Gaussian law of statatics extended by adding a time vary field
On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 16:10:38 -0700 (PDT), Art Unwin
wrote: On Sep 5, 4:59*pm, "Dave" wrote: "Art Unwin" wrote in message O.K. No problem Now let us see what others have to say. After all it is a academic question related to electrical engineering and there are many engineers around beyond the self perceived versions. You have mentioned there are several universities in your area. Why not present your questions and theories in such an academic venue? |
Gaussian law of statatics extended by adding a time vary field
On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 16:10:38 -0700 (PDT), Art Unwin
wrote: Now let us see what others have to say. After all it is a academic question related to electrical engineering and there are many engineers around beyond the self perceived versions. Bachelor O'Science, Electrical and Electronic Engineering. Cal Poly, Pomona (1971). 1. There is no such thing as Gauss's Law of Statatics, Statics, Statistics, or Silliness. Please find and use a spelling chequer. 2. Maxwell's first two equations are Gauss's Law for electric fields and Gauss's Law for magnetic fields. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxwell%27s_equations#General_formulation 3. Gauss's Law roughly states that the total electric flux through a closed surface is proportional to the total electric charge enclosed within that surface. Note that neither the flux or the charge are moving. 4. Unless you want to add quantum or relativistic variables, a static field or charge does not need to have a time variable. If you insist on adding it to Gauss's Law, it will appear identically on both sides of the equation and cancel. That's because you cannot have time moving at different rates on both sides of an equality. Youtube lecture on Gauss's Law (from India): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whv_d-fBCg0 It's 1 hour long. The speaker is very good at deriving Gauss's Law from Coulomb's. I hate to admit how much I had forgotten. So far, I've watched about half the lecture. I'll watch the rest later tonite. -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
Gaussian law of statatics extended by adding a time vary field
Jeff Liebermann wrote:
Bachelor O'Science, Electrical and Electronic Engineering. Cal Poly, Pomona (1971). Aren't you the guy who I got a manual for a PRR-9/PRT-4 squad radio from my reserver unit just before you graduated? Seems to me you wanted to put it on 6M. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. |
Gaussian law of statatics extended by adding a time vary field
Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Sun, 06 Sep 2009 01:15:07 GMT, wrote: Jeff Liebermann wrote: Bachelor O'Science, Electrical and Electronic Engineering. Cal Poly, Pomona (1971). Aren't you the guy who I got a manual for a PRR-9/PRT-4 squad radio from my reserver unit just before you graduated? Seems to me you wanted to put it on 6M. No, that wasn't me. At the time, I was WB6EEP. I later morphed into WB6SSY and recently upgraded to AE6KS. I was playing with Low Band, VHF, and UHF commercial FM radios in college. I built a 6 meter FM repeater with phone patch even before I went to Cal Poly so that I could make long distance calls for cheap from the dorms. http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/pics/Old%20Repeaters/slides/wb6eep-01.html Yep... tubes. I was also involved in building several local ham repeaters and worked part time at a local two-way shop. A radio like the AN/PRT-4a would have been useful: http://www.prc68.com/I/PRT4R9.shtml http://www.kpjung.de/e_prr.htm However, I don't recall ever seeing one around the skool, or in use by any of the other hams. Mostly we preferred GE, Motorola, and RCA commerical FM radios (in that order), which were available in abundance as a result of the original FCC narrow banding ordeal process. Also, just before I was graduated(1), I was in a state of panic and in danger of getting drafted. I had to quit all outside activities, including part time employment and ham radio, and study sufficiently hard in order to insure that I graduate. Failure would have meant that I would probably get to use one of those squad radios, in Viet Nam. (1) The debate among the instructors was whether to fail my senior project, thus requiring me to take another year of classes, or to get rid of me by handing me my diploma with instructions go as far away as possible. Fortunately, the latter group won. You sure you aren't just trying to get out of giving me the manual back? :-) Not sure after all these years why the manual was wanted, but I do remember the Jeff I knew going to Thousand Oaks before I lost track of him. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. |
Gaussian law of statatics extended by adding a time vary field
On Sun, 06 Sep 2009 04:00:01 GMT, wrote:
You sure you aren't just trying to get out of giving me the manual back? :-) Yes, I'm sure. I don't have too many military radio manuals. Plenty of test equipment and commercial radio manuals, but no military. I'm slowly scanning them to PDF and selling the cellulose on eBay. Not sure after all these years why the manual was wanted, but I do remember the Jeff I knew going to Thousand Oaks before I lost track of him. Not me. Somewhat after Cal Poly Pomona, I went to Israel for a short while. When I returned, it was Smog Angeles - Capitola - Santa Clara - East San Jose - and finally to Ben Lomond. The family accountant had an office in Thousand Oaks, but I never lived there. I don't recall any other Jeff at my college that was also a ham. Sorry(tm). -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
Gaussian law of statatics extended by adding a time vary field
Jeff Liebermann wrote:
That's because you cannot have time moving at different rates on both sides of an equality. Black hole radiation is thought to balance the inequality. -- 73, Cecil, IEEE, OOTC, http://www.w5dxp.com |
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