"Szczepan Bia³ek" wrote in message
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- - almighty great snip - -


R. Clark wrote: "Clearly, from a very small dipole to a half
wave, there is little variation in the far field pattern "

Now is time for the very small dipole with tipping. Now is also time to
prepare a shelf in library for the new books.
S*


Doesn't seem like you visit a library very often, on the basis of what
you've posted, so why change the habit of a lifetime?

Chris

On Sep 16, 9:16*am, Art Unwin wrote:
Let me make myself quite clear on this point before the thread closes.
My position is that a radiator must be 1WL to achieve equilibrium.

And why is your "equilibrium" needed?

Note that antennas of every length produce very efficient radiation
from all of the r-f current that can be made to flow on them.

For a given r-f source and antenna, maximizing that current is a
matter of providing a non-reactive match of the antenna feedpoint
impedance to whatever is connected there.

There are good reasons to prefer one antenna length over others, such
as the radiation pattern produced, or the ease of providing a good
match to a transmission line.

But "equilibrium" is not one of them.

RF

On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 11:24:16 +0200, Szczepan Bia?ek
wrote:

S*

Can you read English?

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 15:19:58 +0100, "christofire"
wrote:


"Szczepan Bia³ek" wrote in message
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- - almighty great snip - -


R. Clark wrote: "Clearly, from a very small dipole to a half
wave, there is little variation in the far field pattern "

Now is time for the very small dipole with tipping. Now is also time to
prepare a shelf in library for the new books.
S*


Doesn't seem like you visit a library very often, on the basis of what
you've posted, so why change the habit of a lifetime?

I wonder if he saw a car at a great distance, would he presume it was
driven by a pygmy? A new shelf for anthropology needs to be opened in
the library.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

"Cecil Moore" wrote
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Art Unwin wrote:

Me either since I don't remember anything about "typical
failures". What I said is that the electrons excited by
HF+ RF energy move hardly at all. It is akin to tossing
a stone into a still pond - the water molecules (carriers)
move hardly at all except up and down.

They move along the eliptic trajectory. The longitudinal component is large
than the transversal.

Another brou har ensued with the implication was that
both the upward and downward travels of the applied current was on the
same skin deep surfaces! Very wierd.

Again consider tossing a stone into a still pond. When the
waves reach the shore, they are reflected thus forming
standing waves on the water. Again the water molecules
move primarily up and down, moving hardly at all in the
direction of propagation of the forward and reflected waves.

See above.
S*

On Sep 16, 12:15*pm, Szczepan Bia³ek wrote:
*"Cecil Moore" ...

Art Unwin wrote:

Me either since I don't remember anything about "typical
failures". What I said is that the electrons excited by
HF+ RF energy move hardly at all. It is akin to tossing
a stone into a still pond - the water molecules (carriers)
move hardly at all except up and down.

They move along the eliptic trajectory. The longitudinal component is large
than the transversal.



Another brou har ensued with the implication was that
both the upward and downward travels of the applied current was on the
same skin deep surfaces! *Very wierd.

Again consider tossing a stone into a still pond. When the
waves reach the shore, they are reflected thus forming
standing waves on the water. Again the water molecules
move primarily up and down, moving hardly at all in the
direction of propagation of the forward and reflected waves.

See above.
S*

You mentioned an article in Radio World about the construction of NEC
Could you send me a copy?
Art

Szczepan Bia³ek wrote:
(Electrons) move along the eliptic trajectory. The longitudinal
component is large(r) than the transversal.

The electrons are NOT the EM photonic waves. The electrons
are the carriers for the EM photonic waves. It is NOT the
electrons that have the transversal wave characteristics.
The movement of the electrons in the conductor is indeed
longitudinal but that movement is close to infinitesimally
small at RF frequencies. The movement is more like an
oscillation in place.
--
73, Cecil, IEEE, OOTC, http://www.w5dxp.com

Richard Clark. KB7QHC wrote:
"Several were astonished (as I have already mentioned) to find that his
antenna design had reflector (the new and improved model had two)
elements that were shorter than the driven element and the director
elements longer."

Of course no one could prove for Art how his antenna worked. They
weren`t gifted with his type of genius.

As Terman says on page 906 0f his 1955 opus:
"The fact that a parasitic antenna placed close to a radiaring antenna
can be used either to reflect or to direct the radiated energy can be
taken advantage of to obtain a compact directional antenna system. A
simple example is shown in Fig. 23-39 where the reflector length is such
that it is resonant at a lower frequency than that being transmitted,
while the the director length is chosen so that it is resonant at a
higher frequency than is being transmitted."

Most everyone in this newsgroup has tried the classic Yagi arrangement
and knows that Terman has it right.

Art`s patent does not prove Terman wrong.

Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI

"tom" wrote in message
. net...
Art Unwin wrote:
Your claims of diamagnetic levitating neutrinos and other nonsense has
nothing to do with reality. If it's true, prove it.

You are a FRAUD. Prove you are not.

And I will predict your answer, if you give one, will be equivalent to
"You need to prove I'm wrong".

tom
K0TAR

Gimmi,Gimmi, Gimme. Eat your heart out or get a nights sleep.

Just what I expected. Art's normal non-answer.

Tell you what, I'll get a night's sleep (it's possessive stupid), and you
try and get a dose of reality.

its going to take something MUCH stronger than a dose of reality to get art
up to speed.

"Art Unwin" wrote in message
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On Sep 16, 6:46 am, Cecil Moore wrote:
We
now accept that particles do rest on diamagnetic surfaces per the
Gauss extension. In fact, this surface or sleeve of particles is so
tightly formed that it has the hoop stress of a arbitrary boundary
such that nothing is removed from the diamagnetic material itself.


he still hasn't figured out how my ferromagnetic antennas work without his
magical levitating diamagnetic neutrino hoops around them all jumping off in
response to his current pulses.