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bunnydawg March 23rd 04 05:01 AM

Propagation
 
Sometimes the only reason i open my mouth is to change feet but here goes.
What measurement is indicitive of good propagation.
Solar Flux level or Solar storm activity ( i think it's called)
May sunspots which might be solar flux. Heck i'm confused. I guess what
i'm looking for is a simple answer to what is to me a complex thing. Years
ago when i first go my license propagation wasn't a question because it was
always good. Now i need to know when it's good and i'm unsure what i should
me looking for.
Robert
VE3 something or other.



Richard Clark March 23rd 04 07:54 AM

On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 00:01:28 -0500, "bunnydawg"
wrote:

Sometimes the only reason i open my mouth is to change feet but here goes.
What measurement is indicitive of good propagation.
Solar Flux level or Solar storm activity ( i think it's called)
May sunspots which might be solar flux. Heck i'm confused. I guess what
i'm looking for is a simple answer to what is to me a complex thing. Years
ago when i first go my license propagation wasn't a question because it was
always good. Now i need to know when it's good and i'm unsure what i should
me looking for.
Robert
VE3 something or other.

Hi Robert,

Throw your call out and count returns. Far faster than looking it up
on the net. As there is nothing you can do about the Sun, knowing
does not particularly mean knowledge - after all, what choice do you
have?. When people read the numbers and interpret them as bad, they
are often confounded to learn the ignorant simply made contacts in
spite of this sophistry.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

bunnydawg March 23rd 04 11:05 AM

Good point. I'm always amazed when i do a cq on a "dead" band and get some
exotic dx.
Just back into the hobby thanks to a donation from a really nice ham in the
states and glad i did. Didn't know what i was missing till i got back on.
Robert
VE3 something or other
"Richard Clark" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 00:01:28 -0500, "bunnydawg"
wrote:

Sometimes the only reason i open my mouth is to change feet but here

goes.
What measurement is indicitive of good propagation.
Solar Flux level or Solar storm activity ( i think it's called)
May sunspots which might be solar flux. Heck i'm confused. I guess what
i'm looking for is a simple answer to what is to me a complex thing.

Years
ago when i first go my license propagation wasn't a question because it

was
always good. Now i need to know when it's good and i'm unsure what i

should
me looking for.
Robert
VE3 something or other.

Hi Robert,

Throw your call out and count returns. Far faster than looking it up
on the net. As there is nothing you can do about the Sun, knowing
does not particularly mean knowledge - after all, what choice do you
have?. When people read the numbers and interpret them as bad, they
are often confounded to learn the ignorant simply made contacts in
spite of this sophistry.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC




Crazy George March 23rd 04 02:22 PM

Another point which is largely lost on non-professional users of the HF
spectrum. Good propagation means entirely different things for the
professional user as compared to ham expectations. In fact, the two are
often exactly opposite. The ham wants to work exotic DX, which often occurs
when 'normal' propagation is interrupted, and the professional user is
disaccomodated.
--
Crazy George
Both ham and professional HF user.
Remove N O and S P A M imbedded in return address
"bunnydawg" wrote in message
. ..
Good point. I'm always amazed when i do a cq on a "dead" band and get

some
exotic dx.
Just back into the hobby thanks to a donation from a really nice ham in

the
states and glad i did. Didn't know what i was missing till i got back on.
Robert
VE3 something or other
"Richard Clark" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 00:01:28 -0500, "bunnydawg"
wrote:

Sometimes the only reason i open my mouth is to change feet but here

goes.
What measurement is indicitive of good propagation.
Solar Flux level or Solar storm activity ( i think it's called)
May sunspots which might be solar flux. Heck i'm confused. I guess

what
i'm looking for is a simple answer to what is to me a complex thing.

Years
ago when i first go my license propagation wasn't a question because it

was
always good. Now i need to know when it's good and i'm unsure what i

should
me looking for.
Robert
VE3 something or other.

Hi Robert,

Throw your call out and count returns. Far faster than looking it up
on the net. As there is nothing you can do about the Sun, knowing
does not particularly mean knowledge - after all, what choice do you
have?. When people read the numbers and interpret them as bad, they
are often confounded to learn the ignorant simply made contacts in
spite of this sophistry.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC






J Tabor March 23rd 04 05:32 PM

Hi,

You already received good answers. However, may I offer one tool for your
assistance GeoAlert Wizard
www.taborsoft.com

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"bunnydawg" wrote in message
. ..
Sometimes the only reason i open my mouth is to change feet but here goes.
What measurement is indicitive of good propagation.
Solar Flux level or Solar storm activity ( i think it's called)
May sunspots which might be solar flux. Heck i'm confused. I guess what
i'm looking for is a simple answer to what is to me a complex thing.

Years
ago when i first go my license propagation wasn't a question because it

was
always good. Now i need to know when it's good and i'm unsure what i

should
me looking for.
Robert
VE3 something or other.





bunnydawg March 23rd 04 07:27 PM

Thanks to all that replied. Darn J it's not freeware. I'm on a limited
budget (ok so i'm poor) But i'll play around with the program for a month.
Looks good though.
Robert
VE3 something or other

"J Tabor" wrote in message
...
Hi,

You already received good answers. However, may I offer one tool for your
assistance GeoAlert Wizard
www.taborsoft.com

de ku5s

--
email sent to:
is discarded without being seen.
Sorry for any inconvenience.
"bunnydawg" wrote in message
. ..
Sometimes the only reason i open my mouth is to change feet but here

goes.
What measurement is indicitive of good propagation.
Solar Flux level or Solar storm activity ( i think it's called)
May sunspots which might be solar flux. Heck i'm confused. I guess

what
i'm looking for is a simple answer to what is to me a complex thing.

Years
ago when i first go my license propagation wasn't a question because it

was
always good. Now i need to know when it's good and i'm unsure what i

should
me looking for.
Robert
VE3 something or other.







mefazamy March 23rd 04 10:53 PM

Dear Jerry,

Jerry,

In January I had a similar question about propagation, sunspots etc.
So I reread "Understanding Solar Indices" by Ian Poole, G3YWX in Sept.
'02 QST.

Then I found on ARRL's website, "The Sun, the Earth, the Ionosphe
What the Numbers Mean ..." by Carl Luetzelschwab, K9LA
(http://www.remote.arrl.org/tis/info/k9la-prop.html).

Also on ARRL's website is K7RA's weekly solar updates.

Lastly, "SEC Geophysical Alert Description"
(http://www.sc.noaa.gov/Data/info/WWVdoc.html)

These sources just scratch the surface when it comes to explaining
propagation. However, reading these things through a couple of times
can get you a basic understanding about what this fascinating subject
is about.

73,
KB2AMY

bunnydawg March 24th 04 01:28 AM

I guess that wasn't for me but i peeked anyways. Thanks for the links.
Robert
VE3 something or other

"mefazamy" wrote in message
...
Dear Jerry,

Jerry,

In January I had a similar question about propagation, sunspots etc.
So I reread "Understanding Solar Indices" by Ian Poole, G3YWX in Sept.
'02 QST.

Then I found on ARRL's website, "The Sun, the Earth, the Ionosphe
What the Numbers Mean ..." by Carl Luetzelschwab, K9LA
(http://www.remote.arrl.org/tis/info/k9la-prop.html).

Also on ARRL's website is K7RA's weekly solar updates.

Lastly, "SEC Geophysical Alert Description"
(http://www.sc.noaa.gov/Data/info/WWVdoc.html)

These sources just scratch the surface when it comes to explaining
propagation. However, reading these things through a couple of times
can get you a basic understanding about what this fascinating subject
is about.

73,
KB2AMY





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