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Roy Lewallen September 30th 09 09:02 PM

fractals and HDTV antennas
 
Richard Clark wrote:
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 09:43:33 -0700, Jeff Liebermann
wrote:

Myth number one:
Yep. The advantages of fractal antennas are small size and wide
bandwidth.


73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC


It's not entirely a myth -- fractal antennas can be small and have wide
bandwidth. But my dummy load is small and has wide bandwidth. What makes
that an "advantage"?

You can take this to the bank: Small -- Broadband -- Efficient. Pick any
two.

Roy Lewallen, W7EL

Richard Clark October 1st 09 12:41 AM

fractals and HDTV antennas
 
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:26:54 -0400, Michael Coslo
wrote:
So you're in the Puget Sound area? I used to stay in Poulsbo fairly
often. Spent some evenings at the "Sons of Norway" club there. Coslo is
a good old Norwegian name! 8^)


So howcum you missed the Norwegian independance day parade here in
Ballard? Largest one outside of Norway.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Richard Clark October 1st 09 12:49 AM

fractals and HDTV antennas
 
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:26:54 -0400, Michael Coslo
wrote:

Ahh, I didn't know about your page.


No one actually cares about fractal antennas. Like the rest of the
tourists, our original poster has already moved on without a second
thought on the subject.

The one I was thinking about had an
actual picture and construction ideas.


No one actually builds them either, unless they were accidentally
"constructed" when left in the driveway and back over with a car.
We've had actual picture of Art's antenna left on a doorstep that Art
(like an unwed mother) has never acknowledged. Construction ideas
litter webspace like a toilet papered tree.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Frank[_12_] October 1st 09 02:08 PM

fractals and HDTV antennas
 
No one actually cares about fractal antennas. Like the rest of the
tourists, our original poster has already moved on without a second
thought on the subject.

The one I was thinking about had an
actual picture and construction ideas.


No one actually builds them either, unless they were accidentally
"constructed" when left in the driveway and back over with a car.
We've had actual picture of Art's antenna left on a doorstep that Art
(like an unwed mother) has never acknowledged. Construction ideas
litter webspace like a toilet papered tree.


I saw that program on PBS (I think it was Nova). They actualy interviewed
the designer who used to post here all the time.

Frank



Michael Coslo October 1st 09 04:30 PM

fractals and HDTV antennas
 
Richard Clark wrote:
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:26:54 -0400, Michael Coslo
wrote:
So you're in the Puget Sound area? I used to stay in Poulsbo fairly
often. Spent some evenings at the "Sons of Norway" club there. Coslo is
a good old Norwegian name! 8^)


So howcum you missed the Norwegian independance day parade here in
Ballard? Largest one outside of Norway.



Oh, being in PA kinda limits my access. My Sons of Norway exposure was
mostly because a relative was a member. I really liked those folks
though. Garrison Keillor just about has them pegged - although the folks
I was around liked to party a bit more.

My favorite story from those days is how when I first meet a Norwegian,
they would tell you in a couple minutes if they like you or not. If they
like you, they next thing they do is buy you a drink. I eventually told
my father in law (the member) that we had to limit my meeting more
people to the weekends, or no more than 2 an evening.

- 73 de Mike N3LI -

JIMMIE October 1st 09 05:25 PM

fractals and HDTV antennas
 
On Oct 1, 11:30*am, Michael Coslo wrote:
Richard Clark wrote:
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:26:54 -0400, Michael Coslo
wrote:
So you're in the Puget Sound area? I used to stay in Poulsbo fairly
often. Spent some evenings at the "Sons of Norway" club there. Coslo is
a good old Norwegian name! 8^)


So howcum you missed the Norwegian independance day parade here in
Ballard? *Largest one outside of Norway.


Oh, being in PA kinda limits my access. My Sons of Norway exposure was
mostly because a relative was a member. I really liked those folks
though. Garrison Keillor just about has them pegged - although the folks
I was around liked to party a bit more.

My favorite story from those days is how when I first meet a Norwegian,
they would tell you in a couple minutes if they like you or not. If they
like you, they next thing they do is buy you a drink. I eventually told
my father in law (the member) that we had to limit my meeting more
people to the weekends, or no more than 2 an evening.

* * * * - 73 de Mike N3LI -


I spent 3 months in Norway, they must have liked me a lot. Good thing
that happened in my youth.

Jimmie

John Gilmer October 1st 09 09:58 PM

fractals and HDTV antennas
 


What makes you ask?


Because I want to get some help in deciding whether to buy one or not.



Richard Clark October 2nd 09 01:49 AM

fractals and HDTV antennas
 
On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 16:58:13 -0400, "John Gilmer"
wrote:



What makes you ask?


Because I want to get some help in deciding whether to buy one or not.


Buy a fractal antenna? What a novel concept. Do you have an example?

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

John Gilmer October 2nd 09 09:03 AM

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"Richard Clark" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 16:58:13 -0400, "John Gilmer"
wrote:



What makes you ask?


Because I want to get some help in deciding whether to buy one or not.


Buy a fractal antenna? What a novel concept. Do you have an example?


I saw on in a Big Box store (Target or Wally World). It said "Patented
Technology."

I was thinking of something for use in a high rise condo now vacent. When
I lived there years ago it was possible to get about 10 or so TV stations
with whatever rabbit ears that came with the TV.


I have been around for awhile. I rememble a "miracle" TV antenna that was
just a weight covered with plastic, for example. So I am wondering
whether there is something that works like a "miracle" or are rabbit ears
the state of the art for a antenna. Trouble is that with flat screen TVs,
there isn't any place to put rabbit ears!



Michael Coslo October 2nd 09 03:34 PM

fractals and HDTV antennas
 
JIMMIE wrote:
On Oct 1, 11:30 am, Michael Coslo wrote:


My favorite story from those days is how when I first meet a Norwegian,
they would tell you in a couple minutes if they like you or not. If they
like you, they next thing they do is buy you a drink. I eventually told
my father in law (the member) that we had to limit my meeting more
people to the weekends, or no more than 2 an evening.

- 73 de Mike N3LI -


I spent 3 months in Norway, they must have liked me a lot. Good thing
that happened in my youth.



Yup. I know the feeling. Poulsbo had more characters per square inch
than any other place I've been. I had the retired marine sargent who was
afraid of ghosts - but nothing else, the most people loving person I'd
ever seen, "****bird", the mumbling old gent who wasn't happy unless he
had you rolling on the floor laughing, and a host of others. They were
all much older than me at the time so they're probably all gone now.

- 73 de Mike N3LI -


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