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On May 24, 2:35*pm, Bill Baka wrote:
On 05/24/2010 12:29 PM, Cecil Moore wrote:

On May 24, 10:24 am, (Richard Harrison)
wrote:
Cecil Moore, W5DXP wrote:
"It has been demonstrated that light-sensitive cells in your eye (rod
cells) are able to detect single photons."

*From Navy lectures on night vision in WW-2, I remember that cone cells
are used for day vision and rods are used at night.

I thought everyone on this group would know that. That is also why some
animals can see in the dark, no cones, but all rods in their eyes.

The cones cannot detect single photons. It takes many photons to
activate the cones. It only takes one photon to activate a rod.
Unfortunately, the rod is more sensitive than the rest of the path to
the brain so it takes about 9 photons to result in *an impulse to the
brain.

Now be sure to tell the researcher that. I give up on this subject,
since you all have been trained to believe that there is such a thing as
a photon. It reminds me of religious indoctrination.

--
73, Cecil, w5dxp.com

Cheers, and I will try to ignore this thread.
Bill Baka

I do like that last comment! It appears every time
a physicist gets into a jam he invents a particle or inserts a
constant
Cheers

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On 05/24/2010 01:09 PM, Art Unwin wrote:
On May 24, 2:35 pm, Bill wrote: On 05/24/2010 12:29 PM, Cecil Moore wrote:

Now be sure to tell the researcher that. I give up on this subject,
since you all have been trained to believe that there is such a thing as
a photon. It reminds me of religious indoctrination.

--
73, Cecil, w5dxp.com

Cheers, and I will try to ignore this thread.
Bill Baka

I do like that last comment! It appears every time
a physicist gets into a jam he invents a particle or inserts a
constant
Cheers
That is how it works. They have to produce some results for their
funding to continue. I remember when they tried to explain that
everything was made up by quarks. That could possibly explain Neutrons
and Protons, but what about that poor little electron??
Also how come a puny electron has such a charge that it roughly equal
the charge on a (relatively) huge Proton??
There is a lot of understanding to be done yet.
1. What is the speed of gravity?
2. How does gravity propagate through seemingly empty space?
3. How can a magnet attract in the vacuum of space?
Many more questions than answers.
I don't think those questions will be solved until the median IQ reaches
about 130 and not 100, but I am not holding my breath over that ever
happening.
Something for people to think about.
Bill Baka

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On May 24, 3:34*pm, Bill Baka wrote:
On 05/24/2010 01:09 PM, Art Unwin wrote:

On May 24, 2:35 pm, Bill *wrote: On 05/24/2010 12:29 PM, Cecil Moore wrote:

Now be sure to tell the researcher that. I give up on this subject,
since you all have been trained to believe that there is such a thing as
a photon. It reminds me of religious indoctrination.

--
73, Cecil, w5dxp.com

Cheers, and I will try to ignore this thread.
Bill Baka

I do like that last comment! It appears every time
a physicist gets into a jam he invents a particle or inserts a
constant
Cheers

That is how it works. They have to produce some results for their
funding to continue. I remember when they tried to explain that
everything was made up by quarks. That could possibly explain Neutrons
and Protons, but what about that poor little electron??
Also how come a puny electron has such a charge that it roughly equal
the charge on a (relatively) huge Proton??
There is a lot of understanding to be done yet.
1. What is the speed of gravity?
2. How does gravity propagate through seemingly empty space?
3. How can a magnet attract in the vacuum of space?
Many more questions than answers.
I don't think those questions will be solved until the median IQ reaches
about 130 and not 100, but I am not holding my breath over that ever
happening.
Something for people to think about.
Bill Baka

I spoke to some physicists at the Fermilab accelerator at Batavia ILL
a few weeks back and it was surprising to me how often the statement
was made "that is out of my expertize". Seems like they are trained to
think in a tunnel out of the hearing and contact of others.Considering
the amount of funds they collect their sparse achievements as noted in
their weekly news letter sure does not impress me a bit. How many
times have we heard
"we hope that "if" we are successful it is possible that it could lead
to........"I look for a barrage of such statements in the future about
the difficulties of finding Higgs field where it is now felt to be of
virtual form without mass and possibly out of range!

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On Mon, 24 May 2010 13:34:13 -0700, Bill Baka
wrote:

those questions will be solved until the median IQ reaches
about 130 and not 100, but I am not holding my breath over that ever
happening.

Move to Lake Wobegone and enjoy the everyday experience of that.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

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On May 24, 9:37*pm, Art Unwin wrote:
I spoke to some physicists at the Fermilab accelerator at Batavia ILL
a few weeks back and it was surprising to me how often the statement
was made "that is out of my expertize". Seems like they are trained to
think in a tunnel out of the hearing and contact of others

they are smart enough to know when they don't know something, and
admit it... unlike yourself.

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On May 24, 2:35*pm, Bill Baka wrote:
Now be sure to tell the researcher that. I give up on this subject,
since you all have been trained to believe that there is such a thing as
a photon. It reminds me of religious indoctrination.

After one thinks about it for awhile, one will realize that believing
in anything except physical particles is the religious faith-based
part. Can anything exist in the real world that doesn't have a
physical existence? The answer to that question is why particle
physics has become the accepted standard. Everyone who believes that
something can exist without an associated physical particle is free to
try to prove their belief but how can non-particles be measured?
--
73, Cecil, w5dxp.com

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On 5/24/2010 3:34 PM, Bill Baka wrote:
I don't think those questions will be solved until the median IQ reaches
about 130 and not 100, but I am not holding my breath over that ever
happening.
Something for people to think about.
Bill Baka

If the score on IQ tests ever got to the point that is currently scored
as 130 it would be, by the method that determines IQ scores, 100.

But you probably already knew that.

tom
K0TAR

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On May 24, 11:23*pm, Cecil Moore wrote:
On May 24, 2:35*pm, Bill Baka wrote:

Now be sure to tell the researcher that. I give up on this subject,
since you all have been trained to believe that there is such a thing as
a photon. It reminds me of religious indoctrination.

After one thinks about it for awhile, one will realize that believing
in anything except physical particles is the religious faith-based
part. Can anything exist in the real world that doesn't have a
physical existence? The answer to that question is why particle
physics has become the accepted standard. Everyone who believes that
something can exist without an associated physical particle is free to
try to prove their belief but how can non-particles be measured?
--
73, Cecil, w5dxp.com

I BELIEVE! Hallelujah!

Personally as an engineer i am more comfortable working with the
electro-magnetic wave representation of radio or light waves because
i work with macroscopic objects and the waves and fields are easier to
work with. But many physicists prefer photonic representations
because they work more with particle interactions and it is easier to
represent the interactions at that level with feynman diagrams and
similar mechanics. but most problems can be adequately handled by
either if you apply the right methods.

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On 05/24/2010 02:37 PM, Art Unwin wrote:
On May 24, 3:34 pm, Bill wrote:
On 05/24/2010 01:09 PM, Art Unwin wrote:

On May 24, 2:35 pm, Bill wrote: On 05/24/2010 12:29 PM, Cecil Moore wrote:

Now be sure to tell the researcher that. I give up on this subject,
since you all have been trained to believe that there is such a thing as
a photon. It reminds me of religious indoctrination.

--
73, Cecil, w5dxp.com

Cheers, and I will try to ignore this thread.
Bill Baka

I do like that last comment! It appears every time
a physicist gets into a jam he invents a particle or inserts a
constant
Cheers

That is how it works. They have to produce some results for their
funding to continue. I remember when they tried to explain that
everything was made up by quarks. That could possibly explain Neutrons
and Protons, but what about that poor little electron??
Also how come a puny electron has such a charge that it roughly equal
the charge on a (relatively) huge Proton??
There is a lot of understanding to be done yet.
1. What is the speed of gravity?
2. How does gravity propagate through seemingly empty space?
3. How can a magnet attract in the vacuum of space?
Many more questions than answers.
I don't think those questions will be solved until the median IQ reaches
about 130 and not 100, but I am not holding my breath over that ever
happening.
Something for people to think about.
Bill Baka

I spoke to some physicists at the Fermilab accelerator at Batavia ILL
a few weeks back and it was surprising to me how often the statement
was made "that is out of my expertize". Seems like they are trained to
think in a tunnel out of the hearing and contact of others.Considering
the amount of funds they collect their sparse achievements as noted in
their weekly news letter sure does not impress me a bit. How many
times have we heard
"we hope that "if" we are successful it is possible that it could lead
to........"I look for a barrage of such statements in the future about
the difficulties of finding Higgs field where it is now felt to be of
virtual form without mass and possibly out of range!

That does not surprise me at all. I have gone through about 6 doctors in
the last two years looking for one with enough IQ to even talk
intelligently with. I now have a good one and he is from Iran and glad
to be here. The others were just pill pushers or as I am heard to say
"educated baboons". A PhD means nothing to me if there is no real
intelligence to support it. Many of these specialists have no idea about
other things and no ability to understand when I do go out of their
comfort zone. Finding real intelligence in people is a continuing
challenge for me. My IQ? Don't ask.
Cheers,
Bill Baka

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On 05/24/2010 03:42 PM, Richard Clark wrote:
On Mon, 24 May 2010 13:34:13 -0700, Bill
wrote:

those questions will be solved until the median IQ reaches
about 130 and not 100, but I am not holding my breath over that ever
happening.

Move to Lake Wobegone and enjoy the everyday experience of that.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

I'm amazed that anyone even remembers that fictional lake.
Bill Baka