On Jun 2, 1:39*pm, Cecil Moore wrote:
On Jun 2, 5:39*am, K1TTT wrote:

photons are good when working with other elementary particle
interactions to represent the em energy lost or transferred during
particle interactions. *they are not that useful when studying wave
propagation or interaction with macroscopic object... including 1/4
wave coatings.

Photons are useful for proving that EM waves must necessarily travel
at the speed of light in the medium. Photons cannot stand still -
therefore, EM waves, known to consist of photons, cannot stand still -
therefore any overly-simplified mashed-potatoes version of energy
stored in an RF transmission line violates the laws of physics.
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73, Cecil, w5dxp.com

wave function solutions to maxwell's equations are enough to prove
that for me.