On Jul 9, 6:16*am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
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On 8 jul, 04:44, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:





Each waves are the matter waves. The speed is the particles mass
dependent.
So in the wire the sound waves travel with the low speed (medium are
ions),
and the electric waves (medium are the free electrons) with the
extremally
high speed.

For these reasons IMHO I think -as Cecil do-: basic (undergraduated?)

physics books are very useful to helping us to better understand and
enjoy our ham topics.

For graduated is the field math only.
Hello Szczepan, good day:
I do not know if I undestood quit right your sentences (we are both

out of our native lenaguage) correct me if I am wrong.

Such as we have more troubles with writting than with understanding.

Today we do not conceive unverse as a material thing, then if you want

to say with "each waves are material waves" that all is mater you are
talking with century XIX words/concepts.

Some things were discovered before XIX century. Many more after.

However matter waves are not neither mater nor energy waves, they are

"probabilty waves", probability it is not a "thing", it is a
mathematical concept, surely you know that.

The new concepts are create every day. All must be verified by experiments.

All concepts on "inmaterial waves" was created by scientists who did not
know that in the space is matter.
Ludwig Lorenz know that because he had known what the sublimation is.
"surely you know that" also.

If you accept the matter in the space when you do not need the EM waves and
"probabilty waves".
S*

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don't worry about mr. b... he is stuck in the 19th century. some day
he may discover that some of the fun things they thought about back
then like magnetic vortices and aether were soundly debunked in the
20th century.