Legitimate use of a Tazer gun
 

On TV news last night they showed a video of a police officer talking
to a man resting on a sofa in his own home. His wife had called
saying that he had a heart attack and should go to hospital. The man
refused to go
preferring to rest rather than go to hospital for treatment as he
could not afford it. The police officer then tazered him to make him
go to hospital! The chief of Police said that standard protocol had
been followed.
Only in America!!!!
I wonder if he is still married to the woman
or he cancelled his insurance policy?

Legitimate use of a Tazer gun
 

On 9/3/2010 8:07 AM, Art Unwin wrote:
On TV news last night they showed a video of a police officer talking
to a man resting on a sofa in his own home. His wife had called
saying that he had a heart attack and should go to hospital. The man
refused to go
preferring to rest rather than go to hospital for treatment as he
could not afford it. The police officer then tazered him to make him
go to hospital! The chief of Police said that standard protocol had
been followed.
Only in America!!!!
I wonder if he is still married to the woman
or he cancelled his insurance policy?

Art,

Was he holding an antenna?

Anyway, if I'd been present, I would have been arrested. I would have
considered force, up to the point and including lethal, would have been
justified in stopping such a revolting display. Somehow, tazing an ill
man having, apparently, a heart attack/pains puts that individual
preforming the action below chit, in my world ... sad, so very, very sad
.... it is why the wife and I are considering a move to Montana; I just
hate the cold.

Regards,
JS

Legitimate use of a Tazer gun
 

In message , John Smith
writes
On 9/3/2010 8:07 AM, Art Unwin wrote:
On TV news last night they showed a video of a police officer talking
to a man resting on a sofa in his own home. His wife had called
saying that he had a heart attack and should go to hospital. The man
refused to go
preferring to rest rather than go to hospital for treatment as he
could not afford it. The police officer then tazered him to make him
go to hospital! The chief of Police said that standard protocol had
been followed.
Only in America!!!!
I wonder if he is still married to the woman
or he cancelled his insurance policy?

Art,

Was he holding an antenna?

Anyway, if I'd been present, I would have been arrested. I would have
considered force, up to the point and including lethal, would have been
justified in stopping such a revolting display. Somehow, tazing an ill
man having, apparently, a heart attack/pains puts that individual
preforming the action below chit, in my world ... sad, so very, very
sad ... it is why the wife and I are considering a move to Montana; I
just hate the cold.


I'm sure it was all done with the best intentions. What probably
happened was that the police officer suspected that the husband's heart
rhythms had gone all twitchy, and he needed to apply a spot of instant
defibrillation to save his life.

But rest assured that this sort of thing doesn't only happen in America.
In the UK, where the police still, for the most part, do not carry
firearms, they now carry a veritable arsenal of supposedly non-lethal
devices (including tasers). While these are only supposed to be used as
a last resort, when a miscreant cannot be subdued by the more
traditional methods, they are increasingly being used, as in America, to
ensure instant compliance.
--
Ian

Legitimate use of a Tazer gun
 

On 9/3/2010 8:40 AM, Ian Jackson wrote:


I'm sure it was all done with the best intentions. What probably
happened was that the police officer suspected that the husband's heart
rhythms had gone all twitchy, and he needed to apply a spot of instant
defibrillation to save his life.


Oh man, am I embarrassed. Just shows my negativity!

Your satire is greatly enjoyed. LOL

Regards,
JS

Legitimate use of a Tazer gun
 

On Sep 3, 10:07*am, Art Unwin wrote:
On TV news last night they showed a video of a police officer talking
to a man resting on a sofa in his own home. His wife had called
saying that he had a heart attack and should go to hospital. The man
refused to go
preferring to rest rather than go to hospital for treatment as he
could not afford it. The police officer then tazered him to make him
go to hospital! The chief of Police said that standard protocol had
been followed.
Only in America!!!!
I wonder if he is still married to the woman
or he cancelled his insurance policy?

AFTERMATH.
The judge dismissed charges against the police officer after being
shown police rules that recipients of a tazer gun MUST be taken to
hospital prior to internment.
The same judge dismissed divorce proceedings stating irreconcilable
differences had not been proven and the husband was to pay all court
costs.
The above part anticipates what is yet to happen.

Legitimate use of a Tazer gun
 

On 9/3/2010 9:01 AM, Art Unwin wrote:

...
AFTERMATH.
The judge dismissed charges against the police officer after being
shown police rules that recipients of a tazer gun MUST be taken to
hospital prior to internment.
The same judge dismissed divorce proceedings stating irreconcilable
differences had not been proven and the husband was to pay all court
costs.
The above part anticipates what is yet to happen.

Yeah, may even be looking at our next president, the cop.

That kind of judgment, logic and actions seem popular with our
criminal/treasonous public servants, these days ...

Regards,
JS

Legitimate use of a Tazer gun
 

In message
, Art
Unwin writes
On Sep 3, 10:07*am, Art Unwin wrote:
On TV news last night they showed a video of a police officer talking
to a man resting on a sofa in his own home. His wife had called
saying that he had a heart attack and should go to hospital. The man
refused to go
preferring to rest rather than go to hospital for treatment as he
could not afford it. The police officer then tazered him to make him
go to hospital! The chief of Police said that standard protocol had
been followed.
Only in America!!!!
I wonder if he is still married to the woman
or he cancelled his insurance policy?

AFTERMATH.
The judge dismissed charges against the police officer after being
shown police rules that recipients of a tazer gun MUST be taken to
hospital prior to internment.

I first read that as 'interment', and thought, "How inconvenient!".

The same judge dismissed divorce proceedings stating irreconcilable
differences had not been proven and the husband was to pay all court
costs.
The above part anticipates what is yet to happen.
--
Ian

Legitimate use of a Tazer gun
 

On 9/3/2010 9:12 AM, Ian Jackson wrote:

...
AFTERMATH.
The judge dismissed charges against the police officer after being
shown police rules that recipients of a tazer gun MUST be taken to
hospital prior to internment.

I first read that as 'interment', and thought, "How inconvenient!".


Well, I did jump to a conclusion, based on insufficient data.

This cops' heart might have been in the right place. He needs a caution
given to him and partnered with a more level headed officer. He may
actually have what the public wants/needs ...

It speaks horribly of Amerika though, we need a "kinder/gentler" way of
providing assistance to those unable to afford it ...

Regards,
JS

Legitimate use of a Tazer gun
 

On Sep 3, 11:12*am, Ian Jackson
wrote:
In message
, Art
Unwin writes



On Sep 3, 10:07*am, Art Unwin wrote:
On TV news last night they showed a video of a police officer talking
to a man resting on a sofa in his own home. His wife had called
saying that he had a heart attack and should go to hospital. The man
refused to go
preferring to rest rather than go to hospital for treatment as he
could not afford it. The police officer then tazered him to make him
go to hospital! The chief of Police said that standard protocol had
been followed.
Only in America!!!!
I wonder if he is still married to the woman
or he cancelled his insurance policy?

AFTERMATH.
The judge dismissed charges against the police officer after being
shown police rules that recipients of a tazer gun MUST be taken to
hospital prior to internment.

I first read that as 'interment', and thought, "How inconvenient!".

The same judge dismissed divorce proceedings stating irreconcilable
differences had not been proven and the husband was to pay all court
costs.
The above part anticipates what is yet to happen.

--
Ian

AFTER AFTERMATH
The husband on hearing the judge speak fell to the ground gasping and
clutching his chest. He was taken to hospital with his wife by his
side and who stayed at his bedside where further enquires listed his
condition as ..."grave".

Legitimate use of a Tazer gun
 

On 9/3/2010 9:29 AM, Art Unwin wrote:

...
AFTER AFTERMATH
The husband on hearing the judge speak fell to the ground gasping and
clutching his chest. He was taken to hospital with his wife by his
side and who stayed at his bedside where further enquires listed his
condition as ..."grave".

Did he have an antenna in his hand in the courtroom? Did anyone mistake
it for a weapon? Was it a loaded antenna?

Art, supply all the data so we can make proper statements!

Regards,
JS

Legitimate use of a Tazer gun
 

On Sep 3, 11:34*am, John Smith wrote:
On 9/3/2010 9:29 AM, Art Unwin wrote:

...
AFTER AFTERMATH
The husband on hearing the judge speak fell to the ground gasping and
clutching his chest. He was taken to hospital with his wife by his
side and who stayed at his bedside where further enquires listed his
condition as ..."grave".

Did he have an antenna in his hand in the courtroom? *Did anyone mistake
it for a weapon? *Was it a loaded antenna?

Art, supply all the data so we can make proper statements!

Regards,
JS

Heh, this group is so full of negativety and poor judgement so I
thought that Katie Curic news story
yesterday should be jollied up a bit, so that instead of laughing at
others we should try being the recipient to see if our actions hurts
others.
Have a great week end.

Legitimate use of a Tazer gun
 

On 9/3/2010 9:41 AM, Art Unwin wrote:

...
Heh, this group is so full of negativety and poor judgement so I
thought that Katie Curic news story
yesterday should be jollied up a bit, so that instead of laughing at
others we should try being the recipient to see if our actions hurts
others.
Have a great week end.

Nice try. But, I ain't stoopid, yanno'? You avoided the part of if the
antenna was loaded, or not!

Regards,
JS

Legitimate use of a Tazer gun
 

On Sep 3, 11:44*am, John Smith wrote:
On 9/3/2010 9:41 AM, Art Unwin wrote:

...
Heh, this group is so full of negativety and poor judgement so I
thought that Katie Curic news story
yesterday should be jollied up a bit, so that instead of laughing at
others we should try being the recipient to see if our actions hurts
others.
Have a great week end.

Nice try. *But, I ain't stoopid, yanno'? *You avoided the part of if the
antenna was loaded, or not!

Regards,
JS

FLASH
News release
Husband momentarily opened his eyes. Turned and saw his wife and
immediately lapsed into a self induced deep coma.

Legitimate use of a Tazer gun
 

On 9/3/2010 10:10 AM, Art Unwin wrote:

...
FLASH
News release
Husband momentarily opened his eyes. Turned and saw his wife and
immediately lapsed into a self induced deep coma.

Was the wife loaded; Was he?

Regards,
JS

Legitimate use of a Tazer gun
 

On Sep 3, 12:33*pm, John Smith wrote:
On 9/3/2010 10:10 AM, Art Unwin wrote:

...
FLASH
News release
Husband momentarily opened his eyes. Turned and saw his wife and
immediately lapsed into a self induced deep coma.

Was the wife loaded; Was he?

Regards,
JS

No. I turned the "truth" into a "joke". The same as others did with my
antenna design where they turned it into a massive joke so that they
could apply judgement with a lazer for laughs and nothing being meant
to hurt me as a person.
Lets move on

Legitimate use of a Tazer gun
 

In message
, Art
Unwin writes



Lets move on

Art, just before you move on too far, note that 'laser' and 'taser' are
actually spelt with 'esses' - even in the USA!
--
Ian

Legitimate use of a Tazer gun
 

On Sep 3, 5:54*pm, Art Unwin wrote:
On Sep 3, 12:33*pm, John Smith wrote:

On 9/3/2010 10:10 AM, Art Unwin wrote:

...
FLASH
News release
Husband momentarily opened his eyes. Turned and saw his wife and
immediately lapsed into a self induced deep coma.

Was the wife loaded; Was he?

Regards,
JS

No. I turned the "truth" into a "joke". The same as others did with my
antenna design where they turned it into a massive joke so that they
could apply judgement with a lazer for laughs and nothing being meant
to hurt me as a person.
Lets move on

we don't have to turn your design into a joke, it starts that way and
you try to pretend its the truth.

Legitimate use of a Tazer gun
 

On 9/3/2010 10:54 AM, Art Unwin wrote:

...
No. I turned the "truth" into a "joke". The same as others did with my
antenna design where they turned it into a massive joke so that they
could apply judgement with a lazer for laughs and nothing being meant
to hurt me as a person.
Lets move on

Darnit man! And, you notice, we have been treating your little joke so
seriously. You know that makes me feel like an idiot, don't cha'?
blank look

Regards,
JS

Legitimate use of a Tazer gun
 

In message , John Smith
writes
On 9/3/2010 10:54 AM, Art Unwin wrote:

...
No. I turned the "truth" into a "joke". The same as others did with my
antenna design where they turned it into a massive joke so that they
could apply judgement with a lazer for laughs and nothing being meant
to hurt me as a person.
Lets move on

Darnit man! And, you notice, we have been treating your little joke so
seriously. You know that makes me feel like an idiot, don't cha'?
blank look

Unfortunately, reports of such incidents are eminently believable. In
the UK, the police are as trigger-happy as in the USA. They twice
tasered one guy sitting in a bus, because he failed to respond to them.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...diabetic-coma-
Taser--thought-suicide-bomber.html

And it appears that it's not just in the UK!
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/06...teic_tasering/
--
Ian

Legitimate use of a Tazer gun
 

On 9/3/2010 11:38 AM, Ian Jackson wrote:

...
Unfortunately, reports of such incidents are eminently believable. In
the UK, the police are as trigger-happy as in the USA. They twice
tasered one guy sitting in a bus, because he failed to respond to them.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...diabetic-coma-
Taser--thought-suicide-bomber.html

And it appears that it's not just in the UK!
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/06...teic_tasering/

Ian,

I am not making light of the reality of bad judgment, and the seeming
explosion of it recently. These situations and the efforts being
applied by our public servants, from the president on down, I follow
closely ... frequently in utter amazement.

I am just having a bit of fun, as I am sure you were and even Art is, in
his own way.

Regards,
JS

Legitimate use of a Tazer gun
 

On Sep 3, 1:44*pm, John Smith wrote:
On 9/3/2010 11:38 AM, Ian Jackson wrote:

* ...

Unfortunately, reports of such incidents are eminently believable. In
the UK, the police are as trigger-happy as in the USA. They twice
tasered one guy sitting in a bus, because he failed to respond to them.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...hot-diabetic-c...
Taser--thought-suicide-bomber.html

And it appears that it's not just in the UK!
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/06...teic_tasering/

Ian,

I am not making light of the reality of bad judgment, and the seeming
explosion of it recently. *These situations and the efforts being
applied by our public servants, from the president on down, I follow
closely ... frequently in utter amazement.

I am just having a bit of fun, as I am sure you were and even Art is, in
his own way.

Regards,
JS

Heh Katie Curic showed the film clip on the evening news last night
and closed with the police chief had defended the officer for
following protocol

OFF TOPIC
 

On Fri, 03 Sep 2010 08:07:28 -0700, Art Unwin rearranged some electrons to
say:

On TV news last night they showed a video of a police officer talking to
a man resting on a sofa in his own home. His wife had called saying that
he had a heart attack and should go to hospital. The man refused to go
preferring to rest rather than go to hospital for treatment as he could
not afford it. The police officer then tazered him to make him go to
hospital! The chief of Police said that standard protocol had been
followed.
Only in America!!!!
I wonder if he is still married to the woman or he cancelled his
insurance policy?

And what does this have to do with amateur radio?

Legitimate use of a Tazer gun
 

On Sep 3, 12:54*pm, Art Unwin wrote:

No. I turned the "truth" into a "joke". The same as others did with my
antenna design where they turned it into a massive joke so that they
could apply judgement with a lazer for laughs and nothing being meant
to hurt me as a person.
Lets move on

It takes something funny to make a joke.

BTW, a police officer can not force anyone to go to
the hospital no matter what reason. If your silly story is
true, the officer has made himself and the dept. lawsuit
bait.
That guy could sue the pants off of him for assault, and
probably false arrest if he hauled him from the sofa.
Also, anyone that would tase someone that may have
had, or be having a heart attack should be fired just
for having a terminal case of the dumbass.
And if that tase caused further damage, just more to
sue for. It's enough to give Fracky a woody... :/

As far as your antenna designs, they are a joke.
And I'm being dead serious. Has nothing to do with
you as a person. Like Sgt. Friday, just the facts will
do here.
Ponder and answer this question if you feel brave.
Why would I want to use a dummy load on a stick
as an RF radiating device?

OFF TOPIC
 

On 9/3/2010 7:05 PM, david wrote:

...
And what does this have to do with amateur radio?

Next question, please?

Legitimate use of a Tazer gun
 

Ian Jackson wrote:
I'm sure it was all done with the best intentions. What probably
happened was that the police officer suspected that the husband's heart
rhythms had gone all twitchy, and he needed to apply a spot of instant
defibrillation to save his life.

Yes, very clever. When you only have a tazer at hand it probably is
a good choice. Over here one finds special-purpose electroshock devices
in many public places, and police officers often carry one in their car,
but not on their belt. So he must have figured the tazer was better
than nothing in this case.

Legitimate use of a Tazer gun
 

On Sep 4, 6:59*am, Rob wrote:
Ian Jackson wrote:
I'm sure it was all done with the best intentions. What probably
happened was that the police officer suspected that the husband's heart
rhythms had gone all twitchy, and he needed to apply a spot of instant
defibrillation to save his life.

Yes, very clever. *When you only have a tazer at hand it probably is
a good choice. *Over here one finds special-purpose electroshock devices
in many public places, and police officers often carry one in their car,
but not on their belt. *So he must have figured the tazer was better
than nothing in this case.

See the video for yourself
abc.com

Legitimate use of a Tazer gun
 

On Sat, 4 Sep 2010 07:43:43 -0700 (PDT), Art Unwin
wrote:

See the video for yourself
abc.com

On Fri, 3 Sep 2010 09:41:58 -0700 (PDT), Art Unwin
wrote:

Heh, this group is so full of negativety and poor judgement so I
thought that Katie Curic news story
yesterday should be jollied up a bit, so that instead of laughing at
others we should try being the recipient to see if our actions hurts
others.

Did Katie Couric leave CBS for ABC or is Art jollying up fact with
fiction again?