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Ron H April 20th 04 01:43 AM

The FCC recently rescinded the ban on power amps that work in the 11 meter
band. See the arrl web site for details...

Ron H.

"Dave Platt" wrote in message
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In article ,
Richard Clark wrote:
Wouldn't that be illegal?


Hi OM,

Yes it would. It is against the law to sell Transmitters that are not
type-accepted for the band they are intended.


Quite right. Converting existing equipment to 11-meter use would
probably require individual certification of every unique piece or
type. Sure sounds expensive.

Issue 2: external power amplifiers are not allowed in the 11-meter
band... conversion of higher-powered UHF amps would not be legal.

Issue 3: equipment originally designed for UHF operation (1 meter and
shorter wavelengths) seems to me to be a less-than-wonderful choice
for conversion to 11-meter operation.

Issue 4: there's plenty of cheap 11-meter gear already on the market
(both legal-type-certificated, and outside-the-pale). Doesn't seem
like there'd be much of a [legal] market for converted UHF gear.

All in all, this idea sounds like a great way to lose lots of money,
and risk big fines and the loss of an amateur-radio license. As folks
may have noted, the FCC has recently raised their level of enforcement
against companies and individuals who have been playing loose-and-easy
with the rules about 11-meter operation and equipment sales.

--
Dave Platt AE6EO
Hosting the Jade Warrior home page: http://www.radagast.org/jade-warrior
I do _not_ wish to receive unsolicited commercial email, and I will
boycott any company which has the gall to send me such ads!




Dave Platt April 20th 04 01:54 AM

In article Ym_gc.29718$0b4.40867@attbi_s51, Ron H wrote:

The FCC recently rescinded the ban on power amps that work in the 11 meter
band. See the arrl web site for details...


Not entirely accurate... at least, not yet.

They have proposed rescinding the Part 97 rule which places a whole
bunch of restrictions on the manufacture and sale of amplifiers which
can be used between 24 MHz and 35 MHz (the 10- and 12-meter amateur
bands, and the 11-meter CB band). This change has not actually been
enacted - they're inviting comments on whether it's a Good Idea or a
Bad Idea.

They have _not_ proposed making any change to the Part 95 rules, which
currently make it illegal to actually _use_ any such amplifier with an
11-meter (CB) transmitter.

So - if their proposed rule change is adopted, it'll be easier for
amateurs to buy amps that can be used on 10 and 12 meters.
General-purpose HF-band amplifier designs will probably be revised, to
"open them up" to the higher frequencies.

It will still remain illegal to use any such amplifier on the 11-meter
CB band.

Whether this illegality will stop anyone... well, that's another
question entirely!

--
Dave Platt AE6EO
Hosting the Jade Warrior home page: http://www.radagast.org/jade-warrior
I do _not_ wish to receive unsolicited commercial email, and I will
boycott any company which has the gall to send me such ads!

Speedy April 20th 04 02:41 PM


"Concerned Citizen" wrote in message
...
WA3MOJ wrote in :

In article WMYgc.173537$JO3.101093@attbi_s04, G.Beat says...

"WA3MOJ" wrote in message
...
Hi all, I'm looking for a good reference manual, pdf file, or web
site's that
will assist me in converting used UHF gear to operate on 11 meters.
I'm finding
there is a substantial market for such gear and I'll need some
references for
various solid state and tube conversions.

Thanks in advance for any help.

WA3MOJ

Troll


Why is it a troll? It is on topic.


On topic for what? You are not wa3moj, and are posting in amatuer NG's
with a federal issued call sign. Seems you may have more problems then
you care to admit. You want peopl to think you are the amatuer radio
operator wa3moj, that could lead you into serious problems. take it for
what it is worth. That is only if george want's to pursue the matter.


since no one claiming to be wa3moj has disputed
the post,it stands to reason that it is a valid post.

I have sent a couple of e-mails to the F.C.C. pointing out that
he is selling illegal equipment. everyone else should send
e-mails to the F.C.C.
maybe we can get his ham ticket pulled.



Scott Dorsey April 20th 04 03:05 PM

Dave Platt wrote:

They have proposed rescinding the Part 97 rule which places a whole
bunch of restrictions on the manufacture and sale of amplifiers which
can be used between 24 MHz and 35 MHz (the 10- and 12-meter amateur
bands, and the 11-meter CB band). This change has not actually been
enacted - they're inviting comments on whether it's a Good Idea or a
Bad Idea.


I'm feeling it's a good idea. It's a good idea first of all because it
will now make it legal to sell a lot of those military surplus wideband
DC-to-daylight amplifier systems.

And it's a good idea secondly, because the CB crowd already has bootleg
linears and there is already a substantial underground selling the things.
If it's legal, maybe at least more of those guys will be using clean
linear amps that aren't bandsplatter machines. If the FCC can't stop
the sale, they can at least try to reduce the sale of the worst amps out
there.

They have _not_ proposed making any change to the Part 95 rules, which
currently make it illegal to actually _use_ any such amplifier with an
11-meter (CB) transmitter.

So - if their proposed rule change is adopted, it'll be easier for
amateurs to buy amps that can be used on 10 and 12 meters.
General-purpose HF-band amplifier designs will probably be revised, to
"open them up" to the higher frequencies.


This is a good idea.

It will still remain illegal to use any such amplifier on the 11-meter
CB band.


This is also a good idea. It might be nice if it were enforced, but we
can't have everything.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

I Am Not George April 20th 04 06:42 PM

"Speedy" wrote in message ews.com...
"Concerned Citizen" wrote in message
...
WA3MOJ wrote in :

In article WMYgc.173537$JO3.101093@attbi_s04, G.Beat says...

"WA3MOJ" wrote in message
...
Hi all, I'm looking for a good reference manual, pdf file, or web
site's that
will assist me in converting used UHF gear to operate on 11 meters.
I'm finding
there is a substantial market for such gear and I'll need some
references for
various solid state and tube conversions.

Thanks in advance for any help.

WA3MOJ

Troll


Why is it a troll? It is on topic.


On topic for what? You are not wa3moj, and are posting in amatuer NG's
with a federal issued call sign. Seems you may have more problems then
you care to admit. You want peopl to think you are the amatuer radio
operator wa3moj, that could lead you into serious problems. take it for
what it is worth. That is only if george want's to pursue the matter.


since no one claiming to be wa3moj has disputed
the post,it stands to reason that it is a valid post.

I have sent a couple of e-mails to the F.C.C. pointing out that
he is selling illegal equipment. everyone else should send
e-mails to the F.C.C.
maybe we can get his ham ticket pulled.



FYI as any one reading this can guess WA3MOJ, is being forged.. It is
being done by a group of anonymous out law CBers from rec.radio.cb.
Thier goal is to punish licensed hams who have spoken out against
freeband, mod'ed radios, and, illegal power in that newsgroup.
Operating outside the rules means a lot to these CBers. Anyone that
disaproves of it is seen as a threat. A licensed ham who does not 'go
along with the program" and is foolish enough to use his callsign in
that group gets harrased. Recently, one, of the out law CBers rang
door bells, left notes, and took photos at the residences of hams
N8WWM and KC8LDO for the purpose of stalking them. This is now a
court matter. Also these same CB out laws are so ignorant they get
mixed up and latch on to call signs of hams who do not even post there
which is the case with WA3MOJ, N7VCF, and, others. It may be best to
let them forge away so that the ISPs involved can shut them down.

Speedy April 20th 04 07:45 PM


"I Am Not George" wrote in message
m...
"Speedy" wrote in message

ews.com...
"Concerned Citizen" wrote in message
...
WA3MOJ wrote in :

In article WMYgc.173537$JO3.101093@attbi_s04, G.Beat says...

"WA3MOJ" wrote in message
...
Hi all, I'm looking for a good reference manual, pdf file, or web
site's that
will assist me in converting used UHF gear to operate on 11

meters.
I'm finding
there is a substantial market for such gear and I'll need some
references for
various solid state and tube conversions.

Thanks in advance for any help.

WA3MOJ

Troll


Why is it a troll? It is on topic.

On topic for what? You are not wa3moj, and are posting in amatuer NG's
with a federal issued call sign. Seems you may have more problems then
you care to admit. You want peopl to think you are the amatuer radio
operator wa3moj, that could lead you into serious problems. take it

for
what it is worth. That is only if george want's to pursue the matter.


since no one claiming to be wa3moj has disputed
the post,it stands to reason that it is a valid post.

I have sent a couple of e-mails to the F.C.C. pointing out that
he is selling illegal equipment. everyone else should send
e-mails to the F.C.C.
maybe we can get his ham ticket pulled.



FYI as any one reading this can guess WA3MOJ, is being forged.. It is
being done by a group of anonymous out law CBers from rec.radio.cb.
Thier goal is to punish licensed hams who have spoken out against
freeband, mod'ed radios, and, illegal power in that newsgroup.
Operating outside the rules means a lot to these CBers. Anyone that
disaproves of it is seen as a threat. A licensed ham who does not 'go
along with the program" and is foolish enough to use his callsign in
that group gets harrased. Recently, one, of the out law CBers rang
door bells, left notes, and took photos at the residences of hams
N8WWM and KC8LDO for the purpose of stalking them. This is now a
court matter. Also these same CB out laws are so ignorant they get
mixed up and latch on to call signs of hams who do not even post there
which is the case with WA3MOJ, N7VCF, and, others. It may be best to
let them forge away so that the ISPs involved can shut them down.


maybe if the F.C.C gets enough complaints,they will investigate and
see if its really WA3MOJ or not.
if you care so much, get in contact
with him and ask him to quit selling illegal stuff.




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