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On Sun, 30 May 2004 16:45:03 -0500, Cecil Moore wrote:
Walter Maxwell wrote: In two Communications Quarterly issues he said as much, referring to my writings in Reflections and in QEX.. During our last email communication he reiterated his comment concerning incompetence, and said he was going to write a definitive article concerning matching that would prove it, but that this time he wasn't going to mention me by name. Walt, as you know, I tangled with Steve over the subject of interference which he claimed didn't exist at a match point. He later changed his mind and told me in an email that he needed to rewrite part 3 of his article. Maybe he got it right on his CDs. _Optics_, by Hecht proves Steve's equations in part 3 to be the actual interference equations from optics with RF Power substituted for light Irradiance. IMO, you and Steve were much closer in principles than either one of you realized. Sorry Cecil, I don't think so. Steve has missed the most vital aspect of the phenomenon--what happens to the energy, or power in the reflected waves on return to the match point. He said in Part 3: "... the two rearward traveling waves at the match point (rearward waves 1 and 2) are 180 degrees out of phase with respect to each other and a complete cancellation of both waves occurs." Yes, but Cecil, the cancellation of the waves is only in the rearward direction, because at the match point the waves and the energy they carry (volts x amps) are totally reversed. Now to continue what Steve said is: "The result of this wave cancellation is that the total steady-state rearward-traveling wave has a net voltage of 0 V nd 0 A, respectively, and an impedance match occurs." No No No. As we've discussed earlier, voltage and current cannot both go to zero simultaneously, except in the rearward direction. When voltage goes to zero at the match point because the two returning voltages are equal magnitude and of opposite phase, the current is doubled and the V x I energy in the rearward traveling waves is totally re-reflected in the forward direction. Steve totally ignores the energy in the reflected waves, except to say, "A total re-reflection of the reflected voltage, current and power does not occur at the match point and it (re-reflection) is not necessary for the impedance match to occur." This statement is totally untrue, because as I said above, all of the power in the reflected waves of voltage AND current is totally re-reflected in the forward direction, the same as if the E and H fields had encountered a physical short. We all know what happens in this case. The only difference is that the virtual short established by the wave interference is one way only--to the rearward traveling waves. I know you don't agree with me that a one-way virtual short is what causes the re-reflection, but in a short time I'll be able to prove it to you in a manner you'll not be able to rebut. Stay tuned. You said in Reflections II: "With equal magnitudes and opposite phase at the same point (Point A, the matching point), the sum of the two (rearward- traveling) waves is zero." Which means zero impedance, the boundary condition causing the total re-reflection. This exactly what Slater is implying. This agrees with J. C. Slater, from _Microwave_Transmissions_, "The fundamental principle behind the elimination of reflections is then to have each reflected wave canceled by another wave of equal amplitude and opposite phase." Cecil, the Slater reference is where I originally obtained this concept for my QST article that appeared in Oct 1973, nearly 30 years ago. Check the ref number in Reflections--No. 35. All three above appear to me to be in agreement so the disagreements are really about the down-in-the-noise details. Some gurus on this newsgroup disagree with you, Dr. Best, and J. C. Slater. Those who disagree with Slater need to refresh their memories with a review of transmission lines 101. They ain't gonna win. Others on this newsgroup have been asking about your opinion of conjugately- matched transmitters. I have no interest in that particular discussion but you might point out some references. Cecil, I don't have a particular reference handy, but I can quote some of my own measurements the others you mention might find of interest.. IMO they'll have a hard time disgreeing with the data if they don't already believe a transmitter is conjugately matched to its load when it's delivering all of its available power at an arbitrarily selected drive level within the normal operating range. Those who don't believe will get quite a surprise when I reveal what the output source resistance of the xmtr really is under this condition. Waddya think? Walt |