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Here is the Tesla's electron gun:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sp_xmtr.png

"In April 1887, Tesla began investigating what would later be called X-rays
" We now know that this device operated by emitting electrons from the
single electrode through a combination of field electron emission and
thermionic emission. Once liberated, electrons are strongly repelled by the
high electric field near the electrode during negative voltage peaks from
the oscillating HV output of the Tesla Coil, generating X rays as they
collide with the glass envelope. " From:
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Nikola_Tesla

So we know that the electrons are liberated from the end of antenna.
But where the electrons come from?
From: "the earth"?
S*


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On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 18:28:43 +0200, "Szczepan Bialek"
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Here is the Tesla's electron gun:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sp_xmtr.png

"In April 1887, Tesla began investigating what would later be called X-rays
" We now know that this device operated by emitting electrons from the
single electrode through a combination of field electron emission and
thermionic emission. Once liberated, electrons are strongly repelled by the
high electric field near the electrode during negative voltage peaks from
the oscillating HV output of the Tesla Coil, generating X rays as they
collide with the glass envelope. " From:
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Nikola_Tesla

So we know that the electrons are liberated from the end of antenna.
But where the electrons come from?
From: "the earth"?
S*

Who is "we"?

w.
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On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 18:28:43 +0200, "Szczepan Bialek"
wrote:

Here is the Tesla's electron gun:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sp_xmtr.png

"In April 1887, Tesla began investigating what would later be called
X-rays
" We now know that this device operated by emitting electrons from the
single electrode through a combination of field electron emission and
thermionic emission. Once liberated, electrons are strongly repelled by
the
high electric field near the electrode during negative voltage peaks from
the oscillating HV output of the Tesla Coil, generating X rays as they
collide with the glass envelope. " From:
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Nikola_Tesla

So we know that the electrons are liberated from the end of antenna.
But where the electrons come from?
From: "the earth"?
S*

Who is "we"?


All who know what the "field electron emission" is.

"Introduction.-The main features of t h e phenomenon of the
extraction
of ele&ons from cold metals b y intense electric fields are well
known,"
From:
http://www-project.slac.stanford.edu...ces/fowler.pdf

Each metal with the excess of electrons liberate them.
A transmitter antena liberates radio waves, heat and electrons.

Waves travel in space, heat is dissipated and electrons are taken from the
earth.
S*


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Szczepan Bialek wrote:


All who know what the "field electron emission" is.

"Introduction.-The main features of t h e phenomenon of the
extraction
of ele&ons from cold metals b y intense electric fields are well
known,"
From:
http://www-project.slac.stanford.edu...ces/fowler.pdf

Each metal with the excess of electrons liberate them.
A transmitter antena liberates radio waves, heat and electrons.

Waves travel in space, heat is dissipated and electrons are taken from the
earth.
S*


This is a bunch of babbling, rambling, meaningless, gibberish.


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Szczepan Bialek wrote:
Here is the Tesla's electron gun:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sp_xmtr.png

"In April 1887, Tesla began investigating what would later be called X-rays
" We now know that this device operated by emitting electrons from the
single electrode through a combination of field electron emission and
thermionic emission. Once liberated, electrons are strongly repelled by the
high electric field near the electrode during negative voltage peaks from
the oscillating HV output of the Tesla Coil, generating X rays as they
collide with the glass envelope. " From:
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Nikola_Tesla

So we know that the electrons are liberated from the end of antenna.


No, they are not in general.

That is total nonsense.

But where the electrons come from?


They don't come from anywhere because it is not happening.

You are confusing the specific operation of a Tesla coil with radio in
general.

You are a babbling idiot.




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napisał w wiadomości
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Szczepan Bialek wrote:
Here is the Tesla's electron gun:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sp_xmtr.png

"In April 1887, Tesla began investigating what would later be called
X-rays
" We now know that this device operated by emitting electrons from the
single electrode through a combination of field electron emission and
thermionic emission. Once liberated, electrons are strongly repelled by
the
high electric field near the electrode during negative voltage peaks from
the oscillating HV output of the Tesla Coil, generating X rays as they
collide with the glass envelope. " From:
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Nikola_Tesla

So we know that the electrons are liberated from the end of antenna.


No, they are not in general.

That is total nonsense.

But where the electrons come from?


They don't come from anywhere because it is not happening.

You are confusing the specific operation of a Tesla coil with radio in
general.


So "we" know from you that todays antennas do not liberate even one
electron.

Antennas liberate the EM waves and the electrons as a by product.
Do you support this?
S*


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Szczepan Bialek wrote:

napisa? w wiadomo?ci
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Szczepan Bialek wrote:
Here is the Tesla's electron gun:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sp_xmtr.png

"In April 1887, Tesla began investigating what would later be called
X-rays
" We now know that this device operated by emitting electrons from the
single electrode through a combination of field electron emission and
thermionic emission. Once liberated, electrons are strongly repelled by
the
high electric field near the electrode during negative voltage peaks from
the oscillating HV output of the Tesla Coil, generating X rays as they
collide with the glass envelope. " From:
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Nikola_Tesla

So we know that the electrons are liberated from the end of antenna.


No, they are not in general.

That is total nonsense.

But where the electrons come from?


They don't come from anywhere because it is not happening.

You are confusing the specific operation of a Tesla coil with radio in
general.


So "we" know from you that todays antennas do not liberate even one
electron.


We, being anyone with any knowledge of electromagnetics, know that
antennas do not liberate or emit any electrons under normal conditions,
either today or any time in history.

If an antenna is emitting electrons, something is arcing, which is NOT
a normal or necessary for radio transmission.

Antennas liberate the EM waves and the electrons as a by product.


No, they do not under normal conditions, now or ever.

Do you support this?


Of course not as it is babbling gibberish.

Tesla was playing with Tesla coils and extremely high voltages which
produced RF energy as a by product.

Producing RF energy through arcs and sparks is a technology that was
abandoned about 100 years ago.


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napisał w wiadomości
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Szczepan Bialek wrote:

Here is the Tesla's electron gun:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sp_xmtr.png

"In April 1887, Tesla began investigating what would later be called
X-rays
" We now know that this device operated by emitting electrons from the
single electrode through a combination of field electron emission and
thermionic emission. Once liberated, electrons are strongly repelled by
the
high electric field near the electrode during negative voltage peaks
from
the oscillating HV output of the Tesla Coil, generating X rays as they
collide with the glass envelope. " From:
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Nikola_Tesla

So we know that the electrons are liberated from the end of antenna.


Tesla was playing with Tesla coils and extremely high voltages which
produced RF energy as a by product.


What was the main product?
S*



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Szczepan Bialek wrote:

napisa? w wiadomo?ci
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Tesla was playing with Tesla coils and extremely high voltages which
produced RF energy as a by product.


What was the main product?


High voltages, idiot.



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"Szczepan Bialek" wrote in message
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Here is the Tesla's electron gun:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sp_xmtr.png

snip
So we know that the electrons are liberated from the end of antenna.
But where the electrons come from?
From: "the earth"?
S*


So I suppose we should develop some antennas that have a current maximum at
the end of the antenna?



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