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Wayne November 4th 14 01:46 AM

No antennae radiate all the power fed to them!
 


"rickman" wrote in message ...

On 11/3/2014 8:06 PM, Wayne wrote:


"rickman" wrote in message ...

On 11/3/2014 7:43 PM, Wayne wrote:


wrote in message
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On Monday, November 3, 2014 3:49:05 PM UTC-6, Jerry Stuckle wrote:

There's an old saying: "Don't wrestle with a pig. You only get dirty
and the pig enjoys it."


# I enjoy wrestling with pigs. It's good wholesome entertainment
# for the whole family. :)

Personally, I'm sitting here QRV until a better antenna discussion comes
along :)


# Know anything about loops? I had a thread going on that.

Not much. I've always wanted to play with small loops, but never got
into it.

At one time, my HF antenna was an attic horizontal 4 sided loop, about
14 foot on a side. Not too bad for the constraints applied.


I'm curious. Why do you append the material you are replying to with
the # character? That doesn't seem to work with most newsreaders and
the attribution gets confused.
***************

I am using Windows Live Mail to read eternal-september.
When I reply, the post I am replying to doesn't have any "" added.
If I add "" manually, I have to add it to every line, not just the ones I'm
replying to.

Yep, it sucks and I'm not the only one having the Live Mail problem, or
using #.


[email protected] November 4th 14 01:52 AM

No antennae radiate all the power fed to them!
 
On Monday, November 3, 2014 7:40:01 PM UTC-6, rickman wrote:
On 11/3/2014 8:10 PM, wrote:
On Monday, November 3, 2014 5:44:43 PM UTC-6, rickman wrote:
On 11/3/2014 6:20 PM,
wrote:
On Monday, November 3, 2014 3:49:05 PM UTC-6, Jerry Stuckle wrote:

There's an old saying: "Don't wrestle with a pig. You only get dirty
and the pig enjoys it."

I enjoy wrestling with pigs. It's good wholesome entertainment
for the whole family. :)

Actually the saying is, "you both get dirty, but the pig enjoys it." Do
you enjoy getting dirty with the pig? The rest of us don't like watching.

In reality you are just embarrassing yourself just as Gareth is. Gareth
doesn't realize it (being the pig). Do you?

--

Rick


I have not said anything to embarrass myself. And even if I did,
what's it to you? As I've said before, I find you to be a bigger
horses ass than Gareth. He's just silly and ignorant. You on the
other hand are an arrogant horses ass who seems to think that I
should really care what you think. When I need someone like you
to tell me how to post, I'll let you know. Don't hold your breath
waiting, unless you want to end up tango uniform.

I've been here for at least 15 years, and until you came along,
no one has had any issues with any of my posts. Ever.
So it sounds like a definite personal problem to me.


Ok, you seem to like the drama as much a Gareth. I guess you are two
cut from the same cloth and there is no point in trying to reason with
you.

--

Rick


You jackass. The only one stirring the "drama" is you.
This is what people like you don't understand. I may proke
and prod people, but I do it in a calm orderly military manner.
So calm, that I can heckle people, and most of the time they don't
even realize that I'm heckling them. It's only idiots like you
that try to convert calm orderly heckling into what you call
"drama". You really are a piece of work..
All this because I conversed with Gareth about books.. :|
****.
Leave me alone. Go tend to your own business and leave me out of it.

BTW, I know a good bit about small loops, but you are such a prick,
I decided to leave you to your own devices when you first made the
post about it.



Jerry Stuckle November 4th 14 01:59 AM

No antennae radiate all the power fed to them!
 
On 11/3/2014 8:52 PM, wrote:
On Monday, November 3, 2014 7:40:01 PM UTC-6, rickman wrote:
On 11/3/2014 8:10 PM,
wrote:
On Monday, November 3, 2014 5:44:43 PM UTC-6, rickman wrote:
On 11/3/2014 6:20 PM,
wrote:
On Monday, November 3, 2014 3:49:05 PM UTC-6, Jerry Stuckle wrote:

There's an old saying: "Don't wrestle with a pig. You only get dirty
and the pig enjoys it."

I enjoy wrestling with pigs. It's good wholesome entertainment
for the whole family. :)

Actually the saying is, "you both get dirty, but the pig enjoys it." Do
you enjoy getting dirty with the pig? The rest of us don't like watching.

In reality you are just embarrassing yourself just as Gareth is. Gareth
doesn't realize it (being the pig). Do you?

--

Rick

I have not said anything to embarrass myself. And even if I did,
what's it to you? As I've said before, I find you to be a bigger
horses ass than Gareth. He's just silly and ignorant. You on the
other hand are an arrogant horses ass who seems to think that I
should really care what you think. When I need someone like you
to tell me how to post, I'll let you know. Don't hold your breath
waiting, unless you want to end up tango uniform.

I've been here for at least 15 years, and until you came along,
no one has had any issues with any of my posts. Ever.
So it sounds like a definite personal problem to me.


Ok, you seem to like the drama as much a Gareth. I guess you are two
cut from the same cloth and there is no point in trying to reason with
you.

--

Rick


You jackass. The only one stirring the "drama" is you.
This is what people like you don't understand. I may proke
and prod people, but I do it in a calm orderly military manner.
So calm, that I can heckle people, and most of the time they don't
even realize that I'm heckling them. It's only idiots like you
that try to convert calm orderly heckling into what you call
"drama". You really are a piece of work..
All this because I conversed with Gareth about books.. :|
****.
Leave me alone. Go tend to your own business and leave me out of it.

BTW, I know a good bit about small loops, but you are such a prick,
I decided to leave you to your own devices when you first made the
post about it.



No, rickman isn't the only one who considers you a drama queen.

You've been here 15 years? I've got over 20 on you, since this was
arpanet. I've seen jackasses like you come and go. I prefer when they go.

There's a word for people who heckle others, trying to elicit a
response. It's TROLL.

--
==================
Remove the "x" from my email address
Jerry, AI0K

==================

Jerry Stuckle November 4th 14 02:01 AM

No antennae radiate all the power fed to them!
 
On 11/3/2014 8:46 PM, Wayne wrote:


"rickman" wrote in message ...

On 11/3/2014 8:06 PM, Wayne wrote:


"rickman" wrote in message ...

On 11/3/2014 7:43 PM, Wayne wrote:


wrote in message
...

On Monday, November 3, 2014 3:49:05 PM UTC-6, Jerry Stuckle wrote:

There's an old saying: "Don't wrestle with a pig. You only get dirty
and the pig enjoys it."

# I enjoy wrestling with pigs. It's good wholesome entertainment
# for the whole family. :)

Personally, I'm sitting here QRV until a better antenna discussion comes
along :)


# Know anything about loops? I had a thread going on that.

Not much. I've always wanted to play with small loops, but never got
into it.

At one time, my HF antenna was an attic horizontal 4 sided loop, about
14 foot on a side. Not too bad for the constraints applied.


I'm curious. Why do you append the material you are replying to with
the # character? That doesn't seem to work with most newsreaders and
the attribution gets confused.
***************

I am using Windows Live Mail to read eternal-september.
When I reply, the post I am replying to doesn't have any "" added.
If I add "" manually, I have to add it to every line, not just the ones
I'm replying to.

Yep, it sucks and I'm not the only one having the Live Mail problem, or
using #.


Probably the worst you can use. There are good newsreaders out there.
I use Thunderbird - not the best for news, but it's what I also use for
email, so it's convenient.

--
==================
Remove the "x" from my email address
Jerry, AI0K

==================

[email protected] November 4th 14 02:06 AM

No antennae radiate all the power fed to them!
 
On Monday, November 3, 2014 7:59:14 PM UTC-6, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/3/2014 8:52 PM, wrote:
On Monday, November 3, 2014 7:40:01 PM UTC-6, rickman wrote:
On 11/3/2014 8:10 PM,
wrote:
On Monday, November 3, 2014 5:44:43 PM UTC-6, rickman wrote:
On 11/3/2014 6:20 PM,
wrote:
On Monday, November 3, 2014 3:49:05 PM UTC-6, Jerry Stuckle wrote:

There's an old saying: "Don't wrestle with a pig. You only get dirty
and the pig enjoys it."

I enjoy wrestling with pigs. It's good wholesome entertainment
for the whole family. :)

Actually the saying is, "you both get dirty, but the pig enjoys it." Do
you enjoy getting dirty with the pig? The rest of us don't like watching.

In reality you are just embarrassing yourself just as Gareth is. Gareth
doesn't realize it (being the pig). Do you?

--

Rick

I have not said anything to embarrass myself. And even if I did,
what's it to you? As I've said before, I find you to be a bigger
horses ass than Gareth. He's just silly and ignorant. You on the
other hand are an arrogant horses ass who seems to think that I
should really care what you think. When I need someone like you
to tell me how to post, I'll let you know. Don't hold your breath
waiting, unless you want to end up tango uniform.

I've been here for at least 15 years, and until you came along,
no one has had any issues with any of my posts. Ever.
So it sounds like a definite personal problem to me.

Ok, you seem to like the drama as much a Gareth. I guess you are two
cut from the same cloth and there is no point in trying to reason with
you.

--

Rick


You jackass. The only one stirring the "drama" is you.
This is what people like you don't understand. I may proke
and prod people, but I do it in a calm orderly military manner.
So calm, that I can heckle people, and most of the time they don't
even realize that I'm heckling them. It's only idiots like you
that try to convert calm orderly heckling into what you call
"drama". You really are a piece of work..
All this because I conversed with Gareth about books.. :|
****.
Leave me alone. Go tend to your own business and leave me out of it.

BTW, I know a good bit about small loops, but you are such a prick,
I decided to leave you to your own devices when you first made the
post about it.



No, rickman isn't the only one who considers you a drama queen.

You've been here 15 years? I've got over 20 on you, since this was
arpanet. I've seen jackasses like you come and go. I prefer when they go.

There's a word for people who heckle others, trying to elicit a
response. It's TROLL.


I'm talking about this particular rraa group.
I don't try to elicit a response, and what I call heckling is
likely not what you think it is. I only "heckle" people who
spew bafflegab as if it were etched in stone fact, and then try
to tell everyone else they are the ones who need to read books.
Like Gareth. Like Art Unwin. And a few others through the years.
The vast majority of my posts are quite boring..

And show me posts where I've acted like a drama queen.
I'd like to see them.

rickman November 4th 14 02:16 AM

No antennae radiate all the power fed to them!
 
On 11/3/2014 8:46 PM, Wayne wrote:


"rickman" wrote in message ...

On 11/3/2014 8:06 PM, Wayne wrote:


"rickman" wrote in message ...

On 11/3/2014 7:43 PM, Wayne wrote:


wrote in message
...

On Monday, November 3, 2014 3:49:05 PM UTC-6, Jerry Stuckle wrote:

There's an old saying: "Don't wrestle with a pig. You only get dirty
and the pig enjoys it."

# I enjoy wrestling with pigs. It's good wholesome entertainment
# for the whole family. :)

Personally, I'm sitting here QRV until a better antenna discussion comes
along :)


# Know anything about loops? I had a thread going on that.

Not much. I've always wanted to play with small loops, but never got
into it.

At one time, my HF antenna was an attic horizontal 4 sided loop, about
14 foot on a side. Not too bad for the constraints applied.


I'm curious. Why do you append the material you are replying to with
the # character? That doesn't seem to work with most newsreaders and
the attribution gets confused.
***************

I am using Windows Live Mail to read eternal-september.
When I reply, the post I am replying to doesn't have any "" added.
If I add "" manually, I have to add it to every line, not just the ones
I'm replying to.

Yep, it sucks and I'm not the only one having the Live Mail problem, or
using #.


Not trying to give you a hard time or anything... that can come later,
lol.

I've just never seen this in any other group. I didn't track who was
doing it here, I just assumed it was all from the same person.

I use Thunderird to read newsgroups. If you are already using
eternal-september it is easy to set up and work pretty well. I wish I
could figure out how to filter people so their posts are moved to an
"ignore" folder. I can delete their posts, but sometimes it is useful
to read them if an interesting thread comes up. I'm not to the point
where I refuse to read people's threads, I'd just like to have the
option to change my mind on a per-message basis.

Otherwise I am pretty happy with T-bird.

--

Rick

Jerry Stuckle November 4th 14 02:34 AM

No antennae radiate all the power fed to them!
 
On 11/3/2014 9:16 PM, rickman wrote:
On 11/3/2014 8:46 PM, Wayne wrote:


"rickman" wrote in message ...

On 11/3/2014 8:06 PM, Wayne wrote:


"rickman" wrote in message ...

On 11/3/2014 7:43 PM, Wayne wrote:


wrote in message
...

On Monday, November 3, 2014 3:49:05 PM UTC-6, Jerry Stuckle wrote:

There's an old saying: "Don't wrestle with a pig. You only get dirty
and the pig enjoys it."

# I enjoy wrestling with pigs. It's good wholesome entertainment
# for the whole family. :)

Personally, I'm sitting here QRV until a better antenna discussion
comes
along :)

# Know anything about loops? I had a thread going on that.

Not much. I've always wanted to play with small loops, but never got
into it.

At one time, my HF antenna was an attic horizontal 4 sided loop, about
14 foot on a side. Not too bad for the constraints applied.


I'm curious. Why do you append the material you are replying to with
the # character? That doesn't seem to work with most newsreaders and
the attribution gets confused.
***************

I am using Windows Live Mail to read eternal-september.
When I reply, the post I am replying to doesn't have any "" added.
If I add "" manually, I have to add it to every line, not just the ones
I'm replying to.

Yep, it sucks and I'm not the only one having the Live Mail problem, or
using #.


Not trying to give you a hard time or anything... that can come later, lol.

I've just never seen this in any other group. I didn't track who was
doing it here, I just assumed it was all from the same person.

I use Thunderird to read newsgroups. If you are already using
eternal-september it is easy to set up and work pretty well. I wish I
could figure out how to filter people so their posts are moved to an
"ignore" folder. I can delete their posts, but sometimes it is useful
to read them if an interesting thread comes up. I'm not to the point
where I refuse to read people's threads, I'd just like to have the
option to change my mind on a per-message basis.

Otherwise I am pretty happy with T-bird.


rickman,

I use Thunderbird also, and just mark the filtered posts as "read".
That way when I go through unread messages it skips over them, yet I can
go back to them if I want.

--
==================
Remove the "x" from my email address
Jerry, AI0K

==================

Jerry Stuckle November 4th 14 02:36 AM

No antennae radiate all the power fed to them!
 
On 11/3/2014 9:06 PM, wrote:
On Monday, November 3, 2014 7:59:14 PM UTC-6, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/3/2014 8:52 PM,
wrote:
On Monday, November 3, 2014 7:40:01 PM UTC-6, rickman wrote:
On 11/3/2014 8:10 PM,
wrote:
On Monday, November 3, 2014 5:44:43 PM UTC-6, rickman wrote:
On 11/3/2014 6:20 PM,
wrote:
On Monday, November 3, 2014 3:49:05 PM UTC-6, Jerry Stuckle wrote:

There's an old saying: "Don't wrestle with a pig. You only get dirty
and the pig enjoys it."

I enjoy wrestling with pigs. It's good wholesome entertainment
for the whole family. :)

Actually the saying is, "you both get dirty, but the pig enjoys it." Do
you enjoy getting dirty with the pig? The rest of us don't like watching.

In reality you are just embarrassing yourself just as Gareth is. Gareth
doesn't realize it (being the pig). Do you?

--

Rick

I have not said anything to embarrass myself. And even if I did,
what's it to you? As I've said before, I find you to be a bigger
horses ass than Gareth. He's just silly and ignorant. You on the
other hand are an arrogant horses ass who seems to think that I
should really care what you think. When I need someone like you
to tell me how to post, I'll let you know. Don't hold your breath
waiting, unless you want to end up tango uniform.

I've been here for at least 15 years, and until you came along,
no one has had any issues with any of my posts. Ever.
So it sounds like a definite personal problem to me.

Ok, you seem to like the drama as much a Gareth. I guess you are two
cut from the same cloth and there is no point in trying to reason with
you.

--

Rick

You jackass. The only one stirring the "drama" is you.
This is what people like you don't understand. I may proke
and prod people, but I do it in a calm orderly military manner.
So calm, that I can heckle people, and most of the time they don't
even realize that I'm heckling them. It's only idiots like you
that try to convert calm orderly heckling into what you call
"drama". You really are a piece of work..
All this because I conversed with Gareth about books.. :|
****.
Leave me alone. Go tend to your own business and leave me out of it.

BTW, I know a good bit about small loops, but you are such a prick,
I decided to leave you to your own devices when you first made the
post about it.



No, rickman isn't the only one who considers you a drama queen.

You've been here 15 years? I've got over 20 on you, since this was
arpanet. I've seen jackasses like you come and go. I prefer when they go.

There's a word for people who heckle others, trying to elicit a
response. It's TROLL.


I'm talking about this particular rraa group.
I don't try to elicit a response, and what I call heckling is
likely not what you think it is. I only "heckle" people who
spew bafflegab as if it were etched in stone fact, and then try
to tell everyone else they are the ones who need to read books.
Like Gareth. Like Art Unwin. And a few others through the years.
The vast majority of my posts are quite boring..

And show me posts where I've acted like a drama queen.
I'd like to see them.


Any of Big G's posts you respond to are drama - it's exactly what he wants.

By your own admission, you're trolling. And trolls are not welcome
here; keep it up and the regulars will plonk you, and the only one who
will respond to you is Big G.

--
==================
Remove the "x" from my email address
Jerry, AI0K

==================

[email protected] November 4th 14 03:07 AM

No antennae radiate all the power fed to them!
 
On Monday, November 3, 2014 8:36:23 PM UTC-6, Jerry Stuckle wrote:


Any of Big G's posts you respond to are drama - it's exactly what he wants.


It's only drama to you and Rick. Not to me. It's just another
day on rraa to me..


By your own admission, you're trolling. And trolls are not welcome
here; keep it up and the regulars will plonk you, and the only one who
will respond to you is Big G.


I don't need anyone to respond to me. So I don't care if the
whole frigging group plonks me.






[email protected] November 4th 14 03:09 AM

No antennae radiate all the power fed to them!
 
Jerry Stuckle wrote:

snip

You've been here 15 years? I've got over 20 on you, since this was
arpanet.


That would be over 35 years, which would be a great accomplishment
as USENET is only 34 years old.

Conceived by Tom Truscott and Jim Ellis in 1979 and established in 1980.


--
Jim Pennino


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