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It is a truism
Ralph Mowery wrote:
wrote in message ... But others are correct. The antenna itself is an efficient radiator; it's the matching network that lowers *antenna system* efficiency. Any dipole type antenna will suck on 75M if mounted less than about 100 feet, or about .4 wavelengths. Below that you are warming clouds. So now it's 100 feet? It used to be 60 feet. But I have proof that is not the case. So do a lot of other hams I know. Your "facts" are for an idealized installation. Reality is much different, and will never get the ideal specifications you claim. For a dipole over average ground: Height Gain @ Elevation lambda 0.1 3.89 90 0.15 5.55 90 0.2 5.95 90 0.25 5.81 62 0.3 5.80 48 0.35 6.00 40 0.4 6.38 35 0.45 6.86 31 0.5 7.41 28 0.55 7.76 25 0.6 7.87 23 0.65 7.76 21 0.7 7.54 20 0.75 7.30 18 0.8 7.16 17 0.85 7.15 16 0.9 7.26 15 0.95 7.47 15 1 7.71 14 At 75M .4 lambda is about 100 feet. Generally for DX a takeoff angle of 30 degrees or less is the rule of thumb for best general performance. Of course the antenna still "works" at other heights, but if DX is what you want to achieve, then best results, on the average over average ground, the antenna will work best for that at a height of .5 lambda or better. Now is you happen to be in a salt water marsh surrounded by 100 foot tall steel blimp hangers, your results may vary. At a given height wouldn't all simple horizontal antennas (halfwave dipole, g5rv) have the same take off angle and be equal in that respect ? Say you had a halfwave horizontal and replaced it with the g5rv at the same height there shold not be any differance it the takeoff angle. If there is any big differance in the signal , it would probably be the loss in the feedline going to the 102 foot long antenna. Yes. It also, in general, applies to yagi antennas, though the numbers are a bit different. I have been tempted to put up a g5rv just to see what it would do. I have an 80 meter dipole and also an OCF Carolina Windom at about the same heigth. They are around 60 feet on the ends. There is usually not too much differance in them except certain directions and distances. Then there can be several S units at some directions. This is probably because they are at right angles to each other. Probably true. -- Jim Pennino |
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