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Old August 14th 04, 08:19 PM
Richard Clark
 
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On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 18:29:56 GMT, "Ralph Mowery"
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"CW" no adddress@spam free.com wrote in message
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What part of "electromagnetic pulse" refers to nuclear blast?


For many that is what is thought of. Just as when someone mentions dropping
THE bomb. It is thought of as nuclear.
An air burst is suspose to cause the EMP that will fry most electronics.


For All,

reference "The Electromagnetic Bomb (E-Bomb)":
http://www.airpower.maxwell.af.mil/a...pp/apjemp.html

"The ElectroMagnetic Pulse (EMP) effect [1] was first observed
during the early testing of high altitude airburst nuclear weapons
[GLASSTONE64]. The effect is characterised by the production of a
very short (hundreds of nanoseconds) but intense electromagnetic
pulse, which propagates away from its source with ever diminishing
intensity, governed by the theory of electromagnetism.
...
"Even if the pulse is not powerful enough to produce thermal
damage, the power supply in the equipment will readily supply
enough energy to complete the destructive process. Wounded devices
may still function, but their reliability will be seriously
impaired. Shielding electronics by equipment chassis provides only
limited protection, as any cables running in and out of the
equipment will behave very much like antennae, in effect guiding
the high voltage transients into the equipment."

Note, the EMP of the Flux Compression Generator, an example of a
tactical E-Bomb, is VASTLY richer in current unlike a lightning
strike:
"The FCG is a device capable of producing electrical energies of
tens of MegaJoules in tens to hundreds of microseconds of time, in
a relatively compact package. With peak power levels of the order
of TeraWatts to tens of TeraWatts, FCGs may be used directly, or
as one shot pulse power supplies for microwave tubes. To place
this in perspective, the current produced by a large FCG is
between ten to a thousand times greater than that produced by a
typical lightning stroke [WHITE78]."

However, these intense currents are not widely suitable for mission
purposes for the same reasons of the Lightning's current pulse:
"Whilst FCGs are potent technology base for the generation of
large electrical power pulses, the output of the FCG is by its
basic physics constrained to the frequency band below 1 MHz. Many
target sets will be difficult to attack even with very high power
levels at such frequencies..."

Details abound in this paper, which I will leave to the student to
absorb. Of particular note are the statements about coupling
efficiency (unpredictable) and range (hundreds of meters).

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC
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Old August 15th 04, 07:53 PM
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Can you honestly say that an electromagnetic pulse cannot be generated by
anything but an atomic explosion?


"Richard Clark" wrote in message
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On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 18:29:56 GMT, "Ralph Mowery"
wrote:


"CW" no adddress@spam free.com wrote in message
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What part of "electromagnetic pulse" refers to nuclear blast?


For many that is what is thought of. Just as when someone mentions

dropping
THE bomb. It is thought of as nuclear.
An air burst is suspose to cause the EMP that will fry most electronics.


For All,

reference "The Electromagnetic Bomb (E-Bomb)":
http://www.airpower.maxwell.af.mil/a...pp/apjemp.html

"The ElectroMagnetic Pulse (EMP) effect [1] was first observed
during the early testing of high altitude airburst nuclear weapons
[GLASSTONE64]. The effect is characterised by the production of a
very short (hundreds of nanoseconds) but intense electromagnetic
pulse, which propagates away from its source with ever diminishing
intensity, governed by the theory of electromagnetism.
...
"Even if the pulse is not powerful enough to produce thermal
damage, the power supply in the equipment will readily supply
enough energy to complete the destructive process. Wounded devices
may still function, but their reliability will be seriously
impaired. Shielding electronics by equipment chassis provides only
limited protection, as any cables running in and out of the
equipment will behave very much like antennae, in effect guiding
the high voltage transients into the equipment."

Note, the EMP of the Flux Compression Generator, an example of a
tactical E-Bomb, is VASTLY richer in current unlike a lightning
strike:
"The FCG is a device capable of producing electrical energies of
tens of MegaJoules in tens to hundreds of microseconds of time, in
a relatively compact package. With peak power levels of the order
of TeraWatts to tens of TeraWatts, FCGs may be used directly, or
as one shot pulse power supplies for microwave tubes. To place
this in perspective, the current produced by a large FCG is
between ten to a thousand times greater than that produced by a
typical lightning stroke [WHITE78]."

However, these intense currents are not widely suitable for mission
purposes for the same reasons of the Lightning's current pulse:
"Whilst FCGs are potent technology base for the generation of
large electrical power pulses, the output of the FCG is by its
basic physics constrained to the frequency band below 1 MHz. Many
target sets will be difficult to attack even with very high power
levels at such frequencies..."

Details abound in this paper, which I will leave to the student to
absorb. Of particular note are the statements about coupling
efficiency (unpredictable) and range (hundreds of meters).

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC



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Old August 15th 04, 08:10 PM
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"CW" no adddress@spam free.com schreef in bericht
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Can you honestly say that an electromagnetic pulse cannot be generated by
anything but an atomic explosion?


Lightning?

gr, hwh


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Old August 16th 04, 03:09 AM
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hwh wrote:

"CW" no adddress@spam free.com schreef in bericht
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Can you honestly say that an electromagnetic pulse cannot be generated by
anything but an atomic explosion?


Lightning?

gr, hwh



Google "EMP Test"

Dave
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Old August 20th 04, 03:47 AM
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Why, the terms "electromagnetic" and "pulse" should be common knowledge to
anyone that has any interest in this group.

"Dave Holford" wrote in message
Google "EMP Test"

Dave





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Old August 15th 04, 09:39 PM
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On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 11:53:19 -0700, "CW" no adddress@spam free.com
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Can you honestly say that an electromagnetic pulse cannot be generated by
anything but an atomic explosion?


Hi OM,

I can honestly say that an EMP can be generated by walking across a
wool carpet and touching a faucet handle. I could describe striking a
match as a conflagration or dropping a glass as a shattering
experience.

The term EMP is derived from a truly BIG event with truly BIG
consequences. Trying to elevate smaller examples and saying the
outcome is equal, is not honest at all. The nuclear EMP is orders of
magnitude higher in frequency and currents BOTH compared to lightning.
Saying that the EMP of lightning will cause the same disabilities has
been thoroughly discounted by sheer lack of evidence. We've had both
electronic gear and lightning for a long time, and no one noticed EMP
until they dropped The Bomb. Now, EMP is like sighting Elvis.

I have vaporized a screwdriver with far, far less current than
lightning has found its way unscathed through smaller radius wire.
The recitation of astounding numbers does not make an argument. Even
the Air Force's E-Bombs show they can eclipse lighting's current, to
no greater destruction (which was not particularly effective in the
first place).

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC
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Old August 15th 04, 10:18 PM
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CW wrote:
Can you honestly say that an electromagnetic pulse cannot be generated by
anything but an atomic explosion?


An electromagnetic pulse can be generated by a time domain
reflectometer.



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