I'll just take a guess.

If you take a half-wave dipole and gradually bend it into a circle, then,
for a constant current, the field set up at a distance will crudely reduce
in proportion to the direct distance between its ends.

The greatest distance between its ends is when it is just a straight wire.
---
Reg.

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Gentlemen
I have in the past alluded not only radiation from a straight element but
also the ADDITION of radiation
occuring from a bent element. Nobody has commented on the authentisity of
this statement and I have not come acros anything in my own collection of
books.
Now my present antenna consists of various loops connected in both a
clockwise and clockwise radiation form such that the circular polarisation
cancells leaving pure vertical polarisation.. The loops are separatred in
a
way that intercapacity of the spiral loops is reduced as well as circular
cancellation All of this is based on my gut feeling that R.F.current
flowing
around a circular radiating element. What I ask for for those who have a
deeper background of R.F. is verification of my assumption
that extra radiation becomes available.
Appreciate any comments on this irregular aproach as I cxannot find
guidance
in the books.
A serious question regarding added radiation from an element in the hope
that insight is provided even tho it may expose the fallacy of my aproach.
Thanks in advance
Art


Not knowing how you came to your conclusion no one can tell you why you are
wrong.. My uncle used to have a paint and body shop with a 57 Chevy up on a
pole in front of his shop. While the car would make an awful antenna it
would be futile to try to explain why. In another way of saying it would be
like explaining to a student how he missed a math problem when all he shows
is an answer. The best the instructor can do is tell him he is right or
wrong. In your case the instructor would not even be sure which problem he
had done.

Jimmy I know what the cuurent curve shows on a radiating element and I
suspect that you do also.
Now show me an equivalent current curve for a circle so I can see the
differences in area under the current curve.
Are they different or are they the same?. If you know where such a
comparison is shown and they are different
you are then positioned to inform me why.
By the same token if they are the same which is how most people see it then
I will be better able to
resolve my conundrum for myself.
Art
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Gentlemen
I have in the past alluded not only radiation from a straight element
but
snipNot knowing how you came to your conclusion no one can tell you why you
are
wrong.. My uncle used to have a paint and body shop with a 57 Chevy up on
a
pole in front of his shop. While the car would make an awful antenna it
would be futile to try to explain why. In another way of saying it would
be
like explaining to a student how he missed a math problem when all he
shows
is an answer. The best the instructor can do is tell him he is right or
wrong. In your case the instructor would not even be sure which problem he
had done.

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Jimmy I know what the cuurent curve shows on a radiating element and I
suspect that you do also.
Now show me an equivalent current curve for a circle so I can see the
differences in area under the current curve.
Are they different or are they the same?. If you know where such a
comparison is shown and they are different
you are then positioned to inform me why.
By the same token if they are the same which is how most people see it
then
I will be better able to
resolve my conundrum for myself.
Art
"Jimmie" wrote in message
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" wrote in
message
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Gentlemen
I have in the past alluded not only radiation from a straight element
but
snipNot knowing how you came to your conclusion no one can tell you why
you
are
wrong.. My uncle used to have a paint and body shop with a 57 Chevy up
on
a
pole in front of his shop. While the car would make an awful antenna it
would be futile to try to explain why. In another way of saying it would
be
like explaining to a student how he missed a math problem when all he
shows
is an answer. The best the instructor can do is tell him he is right or
wrong. In your case the instructor would not even be sure which problem
he
had done.





When used in an antenna coils have approximately the current distibution
characteristics as the part of the antenna they are substituting for. Yuri
has an excellent article on this and there has been much discussion about
his on the NG. However taken this in the context of the rest of what you
have said during this string I dont think this is what yiu are looking for.
What you are looking for does not exist.

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Gentlemen
I have in the past alluded not only radiation from a straight element but
also the ADDITION of radiation
occuring from a bent element.
deletia..........
Thanks in advance
Art


Art
There is radiation due to the acceleration of bending a current, it's called
synchrotron radiation.
Synchrotron radiation and amateur radio have little or nothing to do with
one another.
Take elementary school science and report back.
73
H.