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On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 20:43:42 GMT, Rob hath writ:

"Gary V. Deutschmann, Sr." wrote in message
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Hi Henry

Can I ask a disassociated question concerning Search Engines?

If so, here is my question.

Most ISP subscribers have a home page usually named Index.html from
this page they place links to their other pages stored at the website.

OK, Google can find all of these no problem.

But, if you place pages on the website that are not linked to your
Index page that requires the person accessing your web site area to
know the word or name to type behind the actual URL to get to this
hidden web page, can Google find that page?

The reason I ask is that I have certain pages that are accessable only
to those who need to know and know what to type behind the URL to get
them to come up.
To the best of my knowledge, none of these hidden pages (not linked to
the Index page) have ever been picked up by Google.
Naturally these types of pages bring up the directory instead of the
home page if you click the back button, but the directory only shows a
link to parent directory and clicking on that automatically brings up
the index page, so the directory showing the hidden files supposedly
cannot be seen.

How safe is this method?
And can Google find it?

TTUL
Gary

Generally Google or other search engines will not find pages that are not
linked. You can make sure that Google doesn't list it even if it does find
it by putting META NAME="ROBOTS" CONTENT="NOINDEX" between the
head/head tags.
Rob

However, scumbag crackers will continue to probe around in websites --
looking for any un-linked pages you may have. And, neither robots.txt,
nor META NAME="ROBOTS" CONTENT="NOINDEX" will deter them.
Lately I've seen *concerted* probing efforts in my cgi-bin directory --
for things like contact.cgi, eforms.cgi, kontakt.pl, order.cgi, u.s.w.
All 'live' scripts found at _other_ web sites no doubt. (I've already
honey-potted the 'usual' scripts -- such as formmail.pl)

You can use .htaccess to restrict access to _just_ those ip's that you
wish to have access to the web pages. .htaccess is a server-side
control that the crackers can't (well, can't easily....) get around.

I use .htaccess and deep(er), totally bizzare sub-directory names to
try to prevent cracker access to some things. Of course, you need
to turn off directory indexing, too. And, avoid IIS...

But, what do/did either of these topics have to do with antennas?

73
Jonesy
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| Marvin L Jones | jonz | W3DHJ | linux
| Gunnison, Colorado | @ | Jonesy | OS/2 __
| 7,703' -- 2,345m | config.com | DM68mn SK

Thanks Rob!

TTUL
Gary

Hi Jonesy

Thanks for the info!

Could be the wholesale pricing sheet for antenna components that only
distributors are supposed to see couldn't it!

How to PIN a CBers coax would have a BOLD INDEX LINK, hi hi.....

TTUL
Gary

On 17 Aug 2004 20:06:07 GMT, Allodoxaphobia hath writ:
On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 17:54:27 GMT, Jimmie hath writ:

"J999w" wrote in message
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A ham callsign?

Online info is a good thing, saves you the effort of giving out your
address if you want to get a QSL from the bloke you're working.

Why would you want to block your info ... something to hide???

Sorry about any confusion because of user ID but I was using my daughters
computer. Thought I had it set up to give my name. Nothing to hide. Read
what you snipped. I was just trying to figure out why I could not get this
information on some else who says he has been a ham for a while. I plugged
in his call sign in google and did not get the usuall information back from
a callsign data base. First time this has happened to me.

Was I talking to someone with a bogus call.
Question mark?

--snip--

Elsewise, just entering the callsign in Google will only reflect how
"busy" the op is on the web, in usenet, .... and/or in contests.
(I find my call often in contest logs that folks feel a need to post
on web sites....) I'm sure there are some grizzled olde (active)
op's that have never owned or used a computer (not even a Commodore 64),
and whose existance could not be proven by Google. (Google usually
does not index the pages given up by other "look-up" engines such as
QRZ.COM and BUCK.COM.)

So, as an experiment, I entered into Google the callsign my dad
(The First W3DHJ) last held before he became a SK nearly 6 years ago.
He was semi-active on packet radio about 5 years before his death.
But, AFAIK, he was never on the internet.
The only hit I got was deep down in the "available callsigns' lists"
hosted at
http://sattrackhouston.com/vanity.htm

So, even at that, I guess you'd call that a "non-specific hit" -- since
it was not about him, but rather about an amateur callsign he once held.

73
Jonesy
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| Marvin L Jones | jonz | W3DHJ | linux
| Gunnison, Colorado | @ | Jonesy | OS/2 __
| 7,703' -- 2,345m | config.com | DM68mn SK