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Ralph Blach September 29th 04 01:58 AM

longer antenna for a Cell phone
 
There are companies selling longer antennas for the v400.

Do these longer antennas really help at 1900 and 850 mhz?

Thanks

Chip

Ralph Mowery September 29th 04 10:52 PM


"Ralph Blach" wrote in message
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There are companies selling longer antennas for the v400.

Do these longer antennas really help at 1900 and 850 mhz?


It may depend on the antenna. If they are made correctly longer antennas
will have more gain. If not made correctly they may not have any more gain
and may have less.



Uncle Peter September 30th 04 12:27 AM


"Ralph Mowery" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Ralph Blach" wrote in message
...
There are companies selling longer antennas for the v400.

Do these longer antennas really help at 1900 and 850 mhz?


It may depend on the antenna. If they are made correctly longer antennas
will have more gain. If not made correctly they may not have any more

gain
and may have less.


gain is had by reducing gain in other directions. There is nothing to
guarantee that using a gain antenna will cause an improvement;
the opposite may happen. Especially if the antenna is tilted.



Bob Bob September 30th 04 08:31 AM

This actually begs another question.

How efficient compared to (say) a 1/2 wave dopole is the average cell
phone antenna? I'd also like to know the difference between those
handsets that have a antenna sticking out better or worse (dB pls) than
those that dont.

I guess body attenuation wd be a major factor too.

Cheers Bob


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Mikie September 30th 04 09:06 PM

Cell phone is -2 to -10 dB average down from 1/2 wave and the pattern is
very splintered.
The antenna resonates with parts inside the case and users arm.
Longer antenna is defiantly better, IF it is resonate.
If you get aftermarket, it may not be.
Has to be designed for that particular cellphone.


"Bob Bob" wrote in message
...
This actually begs another question.

How efficient compared to (say) a 1/2 wave dopole is the average cell
phone antenna? I'd also like to know the difference between those
handsets that have a antenna sticking out better or worse (dB pls) than
those that dont.

I guess body attenuation wd be a major factor too.

Cheers Bob


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Bob Bob October 1st 04 08:02 AM

Tnks Mikie

Mikie wrote:
Cell phone is -2 to -10 dB average down from 1/2 wave and the pattern is
very splintered.
The antenna resonates with parts inside the case and users arm.
Longer antenna is defiantly better, IF it is resonate.
If you get aftermarket, it may not be.
Has to be designed for that particular cellphone.


Reg Edwards October 1st 04 09:57 AM

It also helps if you mount the gadget on a broom-stick and hold it at arm's
length well above your head.

But you then need an extension lead for an earphone. You also have to shout
loud.
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Reg.




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