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Gareth's Downstairs Computer May 17th 17 09:22 AM

The Pixie, cont'd
 
Continuing the theme to get Foundation Licence
candidates interested in _REAL_ amateur radio,
which means, of course, homebrew and CW QSOs,
as well as the Pixie as a starter rig for only
a couple of pounds, we need to consider an
appropriately easy antenna for them, easy
to build, and, more importantly, easy to
erect.

I suggest two inductively loaded mobile whips
back to back as a dipole.

Any better suggestions, with the emphasis on
cheapness and ease? (Sorry Mr.Tarheel :-) )

Fred Roberts[_2_] May 17th 17 10:09 AM

The Pixie, cont'd
 
On 17/05/2017 09:22, Gareth's Downstairs Computer wrote:

I suggest two inductively loaded mobile whips back to back as a
dipole.


Right then here's another one:-

Take a CB Radio DV27 mobile whip and affix two thick copper wires to the
top to form a "T" - the whip is now capacitively loaded. By lengthening
the whip as usual and moving the "top hat" in and out it is now possible
to resonate the antenna on several different bands.



--
The maths teacher broke down in tears at the North West Wiltshire
Magistrates’ Court

Jim GM4DHJ ...[_3_] May 17th 17 11:58 AM

The Pixie, cont'd
 

"Gareth's Downstairs Computer"
wrote in message
...
Continuing the theme to get Foundation Licence
candidates interested in _REAL_ amateur radio,
which means, of course, homebrew and CW QSOs,
as well as the Pixie as a starter rig for only
a couple of pounds, we need to consider an
appropriately easy antenna for them, easy
to build, and, more importantly, easy to
erect.

I suggest two inductively loaded mobile whips
back to back as a dipole.

Any better suggestions, with the emphasis on
cheapness and ease? (Sorry Mr.Tarheel :-) )


what is wrong with a coax fed 7Mc/s dipole costing 10/6d ? ....

i'm off again to the trailer today be on 40m ssb on the way...then Belfast
tomorrow......



Fred Roberts[_2_] May 17th 17 12:09 PM

The Pixie, cont'd
 
On 17/05/2017 11:58, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:

i'm off again to the trailer today be on 40m ssb on the way...then
Belfast tomorrow......


Just on that subject, you'll be arriving at the West Bank Road at 9:45?



--
The maths teacher broke down in tears at the North West Wiltshire
Magistrates’ Court

Jim GM4DHJ ...[_3_] May 17th 17 01:10 PM

The Pixie, cont'd
 

"Fred Roberts" wrote in message
...
On 17/05/2017 11:58, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:

i'm off again to the trailer today be on 40m ssb on the way...then
Belfast tomorrow......


Just on that subject, you'll be arriving at the West Bank Road at 9:45?



yes will I call on 2m or is that still against the law? ....



Gareth's Downstairs Computer May 17th 17 01:18 PM

The Pixie, cont'd
 
On 17/05/2017 11:58, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
what is wrong with a coax fed 7Mc/s dipole costing 10/6d ? ....


Nothing at all apart from the difficulty for a beginner to
string it up.


Michael Black[_2_] May 17th 17 04:14 PM

The Pixie, cont'd
 
On Wed, 17 May 2017, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:


"Gareth's Downstairs Computer"
wrote in message
...
Continuing the theme to get Foundation Licence
candidates interested in _REAL_ amateur radio,
which means, of course, homebrew and CW QSOs,
as well as the Pixie as a starter rig for only
a couple of pounds, we need to consider an
appropriately easy antenna for them, easy
to build, and, more importantly, easy to
erect.

I suggest two inductively loaded mobile whips
back to back as a dipole.

Any better suggestions, with the emphasis on
cheapness and ease? (Sorry Mr.Tarheel :-) )


what is wrong with a coax fed 7Mc/s dipole costing 10/6d ? ....

I figured because he was talking about loaded whips, he didn't have space
for something bigger.

They may not provide great performance, but they do work to some extent.
There used to be a commercial antenna for small spaces that used a whip
and loading coil, hanging out the window. And the first ARRL Handbook I
got, in 1971, had a similar project in the antenna section.

Michael

i'm off again to the trailer today be on 40m ssb on the way...then Belfast
tomorrow......




Fred McKenzie May 17th 17 05:51 PM

The Pixie, cont'd
 
In article ,
Gareth's Downstairs Computer
wrote:

I suggest two inductively loaded mobile whips
back to back as a dipole.


I've gone a step further and fixed an electrical box as a multi-band
antenna in my attic. It was from a magazine article a few years ago.
Four pairs of mobile whips are mounted on the box, which has eight
surfaces around its periphery. All dipoles are connected in parallel to
a single feed line.

I used 80, 40, 20 and 15 Meter whips. Later, I changed the ground side
of the 20 Meter whip to a hustler with the multi-resonator adapter,
using both 20 and 10 Meter resonators. A short modified CB whip was
added to the top surface of the electrical box to provide a vertical 10
Meter radiator.

Such an antenna does not work very well compared to full-size dipoles,
but it gets you on the air. I'm not running a "Pixie" transmitter, but
a 100 Watt rig. I think a Pixie would still make contacts, but may be
frustrating for a beginner. Especially with the recent poor band
conditions.

Fred
K4DII

Fred Roberts[_2_] May 17th 17 06:47 PM

The Pixie, cont'd
 
On 17/05/2017 13:10, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:

yes will I call on 2m or is that still against the law? ....


I don't do 2m, call me when you arrive I'll be there waiting.



--
The maths teacher broke down in tears at the North West Wiltshire
Magistrates’ Court

Jim GM4DHJ ...[_3_] May 17th 17 07:18 PM

The Pixie, cont'd
 

"Fred Roberts" wrote in message
...
On 17/05/2017 13:10, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:

yes will I call on 2m or is that still against the law? ....


I don't do 2m, call me when you arrive I'll be there waiting.



good man.....ok



Jim GM4DHJ ...[_3_] May 17th 17 07:19 PM

The Pixie, cont'd
 

"Fred McKenzie" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Gareth's Downstairs Computer
wrote:

I suggest two inductively loaded mobile whips
back to back as a dipole.


I've gone a step further and fixed an electrical box as a multi-band
antenna in my attic. It was from a magazine article a few years ago.
Four pairs of mobile whips are mounted on the box, which has eight
surfaces around its periphery. All dipoles are connected in parallel to
a single feed line.

I used 80, 40, 20 and 15 Meter whips. Later, I changed the ground side
of the 20 Meter whip to a hustler with the multi-resonator adapter,
using both 20 and 10 Meter resonators. A short modified CB whip was
added to the top surface of the electrical box to provide a vertical 10
Meter radiator.

Such an antenna does not work very well compared to full-size dipoles,
but it gets you on the air. I'm not running a "Pixie" transmitter, but
a 100 Watt rig. I think a Pixie would still make contacts, but may be
frustrating for a beginner. Especially with the recent poor band
conditions.

Fred
K4DII


a magmount on a biscuit tin used to be the antenna of choice for pirates....



rickman May 17th 17 08:37 PM

The Pixie, cont'd
 
On 5/17/2017 1:47 PM, Fred Roberts wrote:
On 17/05/2017 13:10, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:

yes will I call on 2m or is that still against the law? ....


I don't do 2m, call me when you arrive I'll be there waiting.


There's some humor here somewhere...

--

Rick C

Jim GM4DHJ ...[_3_] May 18th 17 05:53 AM

The Pixie, cont'd
 

"rickman" wrote in message
...
On 5/17/2017 1:47 PM, Fred Roberts wrote:
On 17/05/2017 13:10, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:

yes will I call on 2m or is that still against the law? ....


I don't do 2m, call me when you arrive I'll be there waiting.


There's some humor here somewhere...


Rick C


where? ....



AndyW May 19th 17 06:59 AM

The Pixie, cont'd
 
On 17/05/2017 09:22, Gareth's Downstairs Computer wrote:
Continuing the theme to get Foundation Licence
candidates interested in _REAL_ amateur radio,
which means, of course, homebrew and CW QSOs,
as well as the Pixie as a starter rig for only
a couple of pounds, we need to consider an
appropriately easy antenna for them, easy
to build, and, more importantly, easy to
erect.

I suggest two inductively loaded mobile whips
back to back as a dipole.

Any better suggestions, with the emphasis on
cheapness and ease? (Sorry Mr.Tarheel :-) )


I am still a fan of simple technology, a wire dipole would fulfil the
cheapness criterion although not necessarily easy it seems like a plan
to start with a basic antenna to get a contact and then tune/trim it to
improve that contact scooping up antenna tuning SWR etc on the way.
Every day should be a school day.

Andy


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