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Old November 6th 04, 04:26 AM
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"Richard Clark" wrote in message
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On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 10:45:57 -0800, Jim Kelley
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I have a question. Can you express the mathematical and/or physical
relationship between Rr and antenna gain? It would sure help to clarify
the point you were trying to make.


Hi Jim,

I would have thought someone else could, given the bandwidth of
discussion in making the current taper shorter and the constant
current section longer. Testing does not bear their facile
relationship out however, and for the topic of a short antenna
(otherwise, why are we talking about loading coils?) it would seem
that antenna gain is immutable over several octaves below a
quarterwave length.

Of course, I coulda done something wrong. I did use a commonly
available design. I did use a commonly available modeler. I even may
have done the wrong thing in choosing a design that could be evaluated
for free. Perhaps I erred in providing the cogent details of
construction. It took all of 20 minutes to accomplish (far less time
than that expended in theories of current-in/current-out). These
technical hurdles appear to have set the bar too high for my work's
refutation in kind. I appreciate that "it's hard work!" ;-)

To answer your question, if you just abandon the perfect load, then
you stand to achieve a higher gain. If you shorten the antenna, then
you stand to achieve a higher gain. There is no change in Rr with the
addition of Xl. Hence the mathematical relationship for an antenna
shorter than quarterwave would be suggested as:
gain ~ 1/Rr
gain ~ 1/Xl
Rr Z

Don't take this gain to the bank however.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC




Oh... This is about gain? No wonder I'm confused about the subject.


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Old November 6th 04, 06:17 AM
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John Smith wrote:
"Oh...This is about gain?"

Don`t think so. This is about unequal currents into and out of an
antenna loading coil. The effect a loading coil has on received signals
is due at least in part to its effect on radiation resistance versus
total (radiation + loss) resistance. If you increase radiation
resistance as comared with loss resistance you increase effective
radiated power. Directive gain has nothing to do with loss.

Here is Terman`s comment on gain in Note 2 on page 870 of his 1955
edition:
"Directive gain depends entirely on the distribution in space of
radiated power. The power input to the antenna, the antenna losses, or
the power consumed in a terminating resistance have nothing to do with
directive gain. Such factors are taken into account in terms of the
power gain of the antenna which is defined as the ratio of the power
input to the comparison antenna required to develop a particular field
strength in the direction of maximum radiation, to the power input that
must be delivered to the directional antenna to obtain the same field
strength in the same direction. Unless otherwise specified the
comparison antenna is a lossless isotropic radiator."

Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI

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