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Gareth's Downstairs Computer September 3rd 17 09:58 AM

Who will win? :-)
 
Who will win, SWMBO who has grown a hollyhock spur
up through the ladder section of the G5RV, or me
with a pair of secateurs and a dumper truck?

(Sorry, the latter was a non "secateur" :-) :-) )

Moderator[_2_] September 3rd 17 11:17 AM

Who will win? :-) (rejected)
 

The post that you submitted to uk.radio.amateur has been rejected by a
moderator.

The moderator assumes that you posted this by mistake. It may be that
it quotes a previous post without adding your own comment, or the text
you have written may appear pointless and a bit mental. We hope you will
review, write your message on some toilet paper and flush it down the loo.





On Sun, 03 Sep 2017 09:58:41 +0100, Gareth's Downstairs Computer wrote:

Who will win, SWMBO who has grown a hollyhock spur up through the ladder
section of the G5RV, or me with a pair of secateurs and a dumper truck?

(Sorry, the latter was a non "secateur" :-) :-) )



Moderator[_2_] September 3rd 17 06:13 PM

Who will win? :-) (rejected)
 
On Sun, 03 Sep 2017 13:06:47 -0400, rickman wrote:

Moderator wrote on 9/3/2017 6:17 AM:

The post that you submitted to uk.radio.amateur has been rejected by a
moderator.

The moderator assumes that you posted this by mistake. It may be that
it quotes a previous post without adding your own comment, or the text
you have written may appear pointless and a bit mental. We hope you
will review, write your message on some toilet paper and flush it down
the loo.


Please do not post off topic drivel to this newsgroup,
rec.radio.amateur.antenna. If you need to moderate your group, please
keep it to yourself and not the rest of us.



Kill-file me, complain to someone else, or **** off. Them's your
choices.


Moderator[_2_] September 3rd 17 06:35 PM

Who will win? :-) (rejected)
 
On Sun, 03 Sep 2017 18:28:20 +0100, Roger Hayter wrote:

Moderator wrote:


Kill-file me, complain to someone else, or **** off. Them's your
choices.


OTOH, you could follow his helpful advice and not cross-post domestic
uk.* stuff to the rec.* hierarchy unnecessarily. I am sure you will
think of this next time.



I always like to ensure that officious netkops only ever succeed in
making the s/n worse. Hopefully they'll learn that the best way to limit
the noise is to keep their thoughts to themselves.


Moderator[_2_] September 3rd 17 06:51 PM

Who will win? :-) (rejected)
 
On Sun, 03 Sep 2017 13:40:25 -0400, rickman wrote:

Moderator wrote on 9/3/2017 1:35 PM:


I always like to ensure that officious netkops only ever succeed in
making the s/n worse. Hopefully they'll learn that the best way to
limit the noise is to keep their thoughts to themselves.


Yes, you are exactly the reason why moderated groups exist. Too bad
they are also screwed up by the likes of you. You can't win. You can't
even play. You are a loser before you even get to the game.



Win what? There is no winning. If your aim was to reduce the noise, then
it's true that you are not succeeding, but is anyone really "winning".


If you reply a few times I bet I can identify who you are without any
trouble. I see your type in all the ham groups you have destroyed.



I've already replied a few times.


Moderator[_2_] September 3rd 17 07:19 PM

Who will win? :-) (rejected)
 
On Sun, 03 Sep 2017 14:06:45 -0400, rickman wrote:

Moderator wrote on 9/3/2017 1:51 PM:


Win what? There is no winning. If your aim was to reduce the noise,
then it's true that you are not succeeding, but is anyone really
"winning".


If you reply a few times I bet I can identify who you are without any
trouble. I see your type in all the ham groups you have destroyed.



I've already replied a few times.


You sir, are a loser in life. You are exhibiting no purpose other than
to do damage to others by congesting a newsgroup with trash. What you
are doing is no different from painting graffiti, and you do it with
relish.


You're kidding yourself, I'm not trashing the group on my own. You wanted
look like you had some authority so you pointlessly shot your mouth off.


That is why you are a loser.


You sound like Trump, and I find you every bit as convincing.


There is some irony in the fact that this thread was created by one of
the most notorious of the newsgroup disruptors who has been on an even
keel as of late. So instead the *MODERATOR* of a moderated group has
decided to take his place.



I used the name as a joke, it's you who really seems to think that you
have some sort of authority.





Gareth's Downstairs Computer September 3rd 17 07:24 PM

Who will win? :-) (rejected)
 
On 03/09/2017 19:06, rickman wrote:

There is some irony in the fact that this thread was created by one of
the most notorious of the newsgroup disruptors who has been on an even
keel as of late.


What a nasty abusive little ne'er-do-well are you to originate
such a vituperative comment!

I have _NEVER_ disrupted any NGs. Just because there are those who
dislike my opinions does not make me disruptive, but perhaps it
is their disliking which is itself disruptive?

Grow up, Sonny.


Moderator[_2_] September 5th 17 08:10 AM

Who will win? :-) (rejected)
 
On Tue, 05 Sep 2017 02:57:19 -0400, rickman wrote:

Moderator wrote on 9/3/2017 2:19 PM:
On Sun, 03 Sep 2017 14:06:45 -0400, rickman wrote:


You're kidding yourself, I'm not trashing the group on my own. You
wanted look like you had some authority so you pointlessly shot your
mouth off.



You still haven't figured it out. In the group I visit the only
messages showing up are yours. So this is all about YOU and only YOU.




Oh, that's you in the clear, you halfwitted septic ******.


You're a ****ing idiot, Bro.




Rambo September 5th 17 10:59 AM

Who will win? :-) (rejected)
 
On Tue, 5 Sep 2017 07:10:44 +0000 (UTC), Moderator
wrote:

On Tue, 05 Sep 2017 02:57:19 -0400, rickman wrote:

Moderator wrote on 9/3/2017 2:19 PM:
On Sun, 03 Sep 2017 14:06:45 -0400, rickman wrote:


You're kidding yourself, I'm not trashing the group on my own. You
wanted look like you had some authority so you pointlessly shot your
mouth off.



You still haven't figured it out. In the group I visit the only
messages showing up are yours. So this is all about YOU and only YOU.




Oh, that's you in the clear, you halfwitted septic ******.


You're a ****ing idiot, Bro.

Behave Steve.

Stephen Thomas Cole[_3_] September 5th 17 11:28 AM

Who will win? :-) (rejected)
 
Rambo wrote:
On Tue, 5 Sep 2017 07:10:44 +0000 (UTC), Moderator
wrote:

On Tue, 05 Sep 2017 02:57:19 -0400, rickman wrote:

Moderator wrote on 9/3/2017 2:19 PM:
On Sun, 03 Sep 2017 14:06:45 -0400, rickman wrote:


You're kidding yourself, I'm not trashing the group on my own. You
wanted look like you had some authority so you pointlessly shot your
mouth off.



You still haven't figured it out. In the group I visit the only
messages showing up are yours. So this is all about YOU and only YOU.




Oh, that's you in the clear, you halfwitted septic ******.


You're a ****ing idiot, Bro.

Behave Steve.


Nothing to do with me, Rich.

--
STC / M0TEY /
http://twitter.com/ukradioamateur

FranK Turner-Smith G3VKI September 5th 17 05:44 PM

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"Stephen Thomas Cole" wrote in message
...
Rambo wrote:
On Tue, 5 Sep 2017 07:10:44 +0000 (UTC), Moderator
wrote:
On Tue, 05 Sep 2017 02:57:19 -0400, rickman wrote:
Moderator wrote on 9/3/2017 2:19 PM:
On Sun, 03 Sep 2017 14:06:45 -0400, rickman wrote:
You're kidding yourself, I'm not trashing the group on my own. You
wanted look like you had some authority so you pointlessly shot your
mouth off.

You still haven't figured it out. In the group I visit the only
messages showing up are yours. So this is all about YOU and only YOU.

Oh, that's you in the clear, you halfwitted septic ******.

You're a ****ing idiot, Bro.

Behave Steve.


Nothing to do with me, Rich.

Where are you Jim? You're missing all the fun.
--
;-)
..
73 de Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI - mine's a pint.
..
http://turner-smith.uk


Scatboi g8dgc September 5th 17 07:43 PM

Who will win? :-) (rejected)
 
On 9/3/2017 2:24 PM, Gareth's Downstairs Computer wrote:
On 03/09/2017 19:06, rickman wrote:

There is some irony in the fact that this thread was created by one of
the most notorious of the newsgroup disruptors who has been on an even
keel as of late.


What a nasty abusive little ne'er-do-well are you to originate
such a vituperative comment!

I have _NEVER_ disrupted any NGs. Just because there are those who
dislike my opinions does not make me disruptive, but perhaps it
is their disliking which is itself disruptive?

Grow up, Sonny.


You momma gimme good head.
LOL

Geraldine Stewart September 5th 17 09:13 PM

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"FranK Turner-Smith G3VKI" wrote in message
...
"Stephen Thomas Cole" wrote in message
...
Rambo wrote:
On Tue, 5 Sep 2017 07:10:44 +0000 (UTC), Moderator
wrote:
On Tue, 05 Sep 2017 02:57:19 -0400, rickman wrote:
Moderator wrote on 9/3/2017 2:19 PM:
On Sun, 03 Sep 2017 14:06:45 -0400, rickman wrote:
You're kidding yourself, I'm not trashing the group on my own. You
wanted look like you had some authority so you pointlessly shot your
mouth off.

You still haven't figured it out. In the group I visit the only
messages showing up are yours. So this is all about YOU and only YOU.

Oh, that's you in the clear, you halfwitted septic ******.

You're a ****ing idiot, Bro.

Behave Steve.


Nothing to do with me, Rich.

Where are you Jim? You're missing all the fun.
;-)
.
73 de Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI - mine's a pint.
.
http://turner-smith.uk


He won't be back.



Ian Jackson[_4_] September 5th 17 09:16 PM

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In message , Geraldine Stewart
writes

"FranK Turner-Smith G3VKI" wrote in message
...
"Stephen Thomas Cole" wrote in message
...
Rambo wrote:
On Tue, 5 Sep 2017 07:10:44 +0000 (UTC), Moderator
wrote:
On Tue, 05 Sep 2017 02:57:19 -0400, rickman wrote:
Moderator wrote on 9/3/2017 2:19 PM:
On Sun, 03 Sep 2017 14:06:45 -0400, rickman wrote:
You're kidding yourself, I'm not trashing the group on my own. You
wanted look like you had some authority so you pointlessly shot your
mouth off.

You still haven't figured it out. In the group I visit the only
messages showing up are yours. So this is all about YOU and only YOU.

Oh, that's you in the clear, you halfwitted septic ******.

You're a ****ing idiot, Bro.

Behave Steve.

Nothing to do with me, Rich.

Where are you Jim? You're missing all the fun.
;-)
.
73 de Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI - mine's a pint.
.
http://turner-smith.uk


He won't be back.


Has he done a Wlat?



--
Ian

Spike[_3_] September 6th 17 08:38 AM

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On 05/09/2017 21:13, Geraldine Stewart wrote:
"FranK Turner-Smith G3VKI" wrote


Where are you Jim? You're missing all the fun ;-)


He won't be back.


What have you done to our Jimbo?


--
Spike

Geraldine Stewart September 6th 17 09:54 AM

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"Spike" wrote in message
...
On 05/09/2017 21:13, Geraldine Stewart wrote:
"FranK Turner-Smith G3VKI" wrote


Where are you Jim? You're missing all the fun ;-)


He won't be back.


What have you done to our Jimbo?


Spike


Stopped him wasting his time.



Geraldine Stewart September 6th 17 09:56 AM

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"Ian Jackson" wrote in message
...
In message , Geraldine Stewart
writes

"FranK Turner-Smith G3VKI" wrote in message
...
"Stephen Thomas Cole" wrote in message
...
Rambo wrote:
On Tue, 5 Sep 2017 07:10:44 +0000 (UTC), Moderator
wrote:
On Tue, 05 Sep 2017 02:57:19 -0400, rickman wrote:
Moderator wrote on 9/3/2017 2:19 PM:
On Sun, 03 Sep 2017 14:06:45 -0400, rickman wrote:
You're kidding yourself, I'm not trashing the group on my own. You
wanted look like you had some authority so you pointlessly shot
your
mouth off.

You still haven't figured it out. In the group I visit the only
messages showing up are yours. So this is all about YOU and only
YOU.

Oh, that's you in the clear, you halfwitted septic ******.

You're a ****ing idiot, Bro.

Behave Steve.

Nothing to do with me, Rich.

Where are you Jim? You're missing all the fun.
;-)
.
73 de Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI - mine's a pint.
.
http://turner-smith.uk


He won't be back.


Has he done a Wlat?



Hubby tells me Walt was a nice man who got sick of the silly people on here
and left.I have made Jimmy do the same.



Ian Jackson[_4_] September 6th 17 11:28 AM

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In message , Geraldine Stewart
writes

"Ian Jackson" wrote in message
...
In message , Geraldine Stewart
writes

"FranK Turner-Smith G3VKI" wrote in message
...
"Stephen Thomas Cole" wrote in message
...
Rambo wrote:
On Tue, 5 Sep 2017 07:10:44 +0000 (UTC), Moderator
wrote:
On Tue, 05 Sep 2017 02:57:19 -0400, rickman wrote:
Moderator wrote on 9/3/2017 2:19 PM:
On Sun, 03 Sep 2017 14:06:45 -0400, rickman wrote:
You're kidding yourself, I'm not trashing the group on my own. You
wanted look like you had some authority so you pointlessly shot
your
mouth off.

You still haven't figured it out. In the group I visit the only
messages showing up are yours. So this is all about YOU and only
YOU.

Oh, that's you in the clear, you halfwitted septic ******.

You're a ****ing idiot, Bro.

Behave Steve.

Nothing to do with me, Rich.

Where are you Jim? You're missing all the fun.
;-)
.
73 de Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI - mine's a pint.
.
http://turner-smith.uk


He won't be back.


Has he done a Wlat?



Hubby tells me Walt was a nice man who got sick of the silly people on here
and left.I have made Jimmy do the same.


Well done. But like Wlat, he will be sorely missed.



--
Ian

Brian Reay[_5_] September 7th 17 09:22 AM

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On 06/09/17 11:28, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Geraldine Stewart
writes

"Ian Jackson" wrote in message
...
In message , Geraldine Stewart
writes

"FranK Turner-Smith G3VKI" wrote in message
...
"Stephen Thomas Cole" wrote in message
...
Rambo wrote:
On Tue, 5 Sep 2017 07:10:44 +0000 (UTC), Moderator
wrote:
On Tue, 05 Sep 2017 02:57:19 -0400, rickman wrote:
Moderator wrote on 9/3/2017 2:19 PM:
On Sun, 03 Sep 2017 14:06:45 -0400, rickman wrote:
You're kidding yourself, I'm not trashing the group on my own.
You
wanted look like you had some authority so you pointlessly shot
your
mouth off.

You still haven't figured it out. In the group I visit the only
messages showing up are yours. So this is all about YOU and only
YOU.

Oh, that's you in the clear, you halfwitted septic ******.

You're a ****ing idiot, Bro.

Behave Steve.

Nothing to do with me, Rich.

Where are you Jim? You're missing all the fun.
;-)
.
73 de Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI - mine's a pint.
.
http://turner-smith.uk


He won't be back.

Has he done a Wlat?



Hubby tells me Walt was a nice man who got sick of the silly people on
here
and left.I have made Jimmy do the same.


Well done. But like Wlat, he will be sorely missed.




Who was/is Wlat?

Ian Jackson[_4_] September 7th 17 10:09 AM

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In message , Brian Reay writes
On 06/09/17 11:28, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Geraldine Stewart
writes

"Ian Jackson" wrote in message
...
In message , Geraldine Stewart
writes

"FranK Turner-Smith G3VKI" wrote in message
...
"Stephen Thomas Cole" wrote in message
...
Rambo wrote:
On Tue, 5 Sep 2017 07:10:44 +0000 (UTC), Moderator
wrote:
On Tue, 05 Sep 2017 02:57:19 -0400, rickman wrote:
Moderator wrote on 9/3/2017 2:19 PM:
On Sun, 03 Sep 2017 14:06:45 -0400, rickman wrote:
You're kidding yourself, I'm not trashing the group on my

wanted look like you had some authority so you pointlessly shot
your
mouth off.

You still haven't figured it out. In the group I visit the only
messages showing up are yours. So this is all about YOU and only
YOU.

Oh, that's you in the clear, you halfwitted septic ******.

You're a ****ing idiot, Bro.

Behave Steve.

Nothing to do with me, Rich.

Where are you Jim? You're missing all the fun.
;-)
.
73 de Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI - mine's a pint.
.
http://turner-smith.uk


He won't be back.

Has he done a Wlat?



Hubby tells me Walt was a nice man who got sick of the silly people
on here
and left.I have made Jimmy do the same.

Well done. But like Wlat, he will be sorely missed.


Who was/is Wlat?


A legend in his own lifetime!

[BTW, as northeasterner, did you see that Mike Neville has died?]
--
Ian

Ian Jackson[_4_] September 7th 17 01:36 PM

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In message , Brian Reay writes
GIan Jackson wrote:
In message , Brian Reay writes
On 06/09/17 11:28, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Geraldine Stewart
writes

"Ian Jackson" wrote in message
...
In message , Geraldine Stewart
writes

"FranK Turner-Smith G3VKI" wrote in message
...
"Stephen Thomas Cole" wrote in message
...
Rambo wrote:
On Tue, 5 Sep 2017 07:10:44 +0000 (UTC), Moderator
wrote:
On Tue, 05 Sep 2017 02:57:19 -0400, rickman wrote:
Moderator wrote on 9/3/2017 2:19 PM:
On Sun, 03 Sep 2017 14:06:45 -0400, rickman wrote:
You're kidding yourself, I'm not trashing the group on my

wanted look like you had some authority so you pointlessly shot
your
mouth off.

You still haven't figured it out. In the group I visit the only
messages showing up are yours. So this is all about YOU and only
YOU.

Oh, that's you in the clear, you halfwitted septic ******.

You're a ****ing idiot, Bro.

Behave Steve.

Nothing to do with me, Rich.

Where are you Jim? You're missing all the fun.
;-)
.
73 de Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI - mine's a pint.
.
http://turner-smith.uk


He won't be back.

Has he done a Wlat?



Hubby tells me Walt was a nice man who got sick of the silly people
on here
and left.I have made Jimmy do the same.
Well done. But like Wlat, he will be sorely missed.


Who was/is Wlat?


A legend in his own lifetime!


Perhaps in his own mind.



[BTW, as northeasterner, did you see that Mike Neville has died?]


Oh dear, he was something of a real legend. The Walter Conkite of Tyneside.


He and a fellow presenter, as I recall, had a sideline in singing
traditional folk songs and the like in the late 60s/70s. He must have been
a respectable age but it is still sad to learn of his death.


He was 80.

I don't recall him singing folksongs. Are you thinking of Alex Glasgow?
I seem to remember him occasionally being on Radio 4's Today programme -
but he was mainly a folksinger, songwriter and playwright. Mike
Neville's news sidekick was George House, who died in 2012.

As well as being a TV news reader and personality, Mike Neville also
appeared on the 'Larn Yersel Geordie' record.

He was very well respected - and one of Jez Lowe's folk songs about the
news that the local pits were going to close was entitled 'Mike Neville
said it (so it must be true)'.






--
Ian

A. non Eyemouse September 7th 17 02:52 PM

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On 06/09/2017 06:56, Brian Morrison wrote:
On Tue, 5 Sep 2017 21:13:21 +0100
Geraldine Stewart wrote:

He won't be back.


Why not? For all his rather pointless posts we rather like having him
about.


Qwality.

--
Mouse.
Where Morse meets House.

Spike[_3_] September 7th 17 06:18 PM

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On 06/09/2017 11:56, Brian Morrison wrote:
Geraldine Stewart wrote:


He won't be back.


Why not? For all his rather pointless posts we rather like having him
about.


WHS!


--
Spike

Rambo September 7th 17 07:09 PM

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On Thu, 7 Sep 2017 18:18:13 +0100, Spike
wrote:

On 06/09/2017 11:56, Brian Morrison wrote:
Geraldine Stewart wrote:


He won't be back.


Why not? For all his rather pointless posts we rather like having him
about.


WHS!


Aw.... I like Jim too. A lot of us do.

Moderator[_2_] September 8th 17 08:42 PM

Who will win? :-) (rejected)
 
On Fri, 08 Sep 2017 15:37:59 -0400, rickman wrote:

Moderator wrote on 9/5/2017 3:10 AM:
On Tue, 05 Sep 2017 02:57:19 -0400, rickman wrote:

Moderator wrote on 9/3/2017 2:19 PM:
On Sun, 03 Sep 2017 14:06:45 -0400, rickman wrote:


You're kidding yourself, I'm not trashing the group on my own. You
wanted look like you had some authority so you pointlessly shot your
mouth off.



You still haven't figured it out. In the group I visit the only
messages showing up are yours. So this is all about YOU and only YOU.




Oh, that's you in the clear, you halfwitted septic ******.


You're a ****ing idiot, Bro.


You still aren't getting it.



You're stll a dim septic ******.






Brian Reay[_5_] September 9th 17 08:48 AM

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On 08/09/17 22:37, Rambo wrote:



It is in the British Library, get off you backside and look for it.
You've already been told by someone else the index isn't online so your
trick of saying you can't find it is clearly a bluff.

In which you won't mind stating the title of the article, which
publication, author and which section to look in. You would have also
gone and got it copied yourself if it existed.

Of course the simple fact you haven't, would imply that you are lying.


So why hasn't your chum made good on his empty threats?

Like you he, falsely, claims the article is bogus.

He knows it isn't. He also knows it refers to him.

No matter how much you bluster Dumbo, it won't make the article any less
real or change who it refers to.







Spike[_3_] September 9th 17 08:58 AM

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On 08/09/2017 22:37, Rambo wrote:
Brian Reay wrote:


It is in the British Library, get off you backside and look for it.
You've already been told by someone else the index isn't online so your
trick of saying you can't find it is clearly a bluff.


In which you won't mind stating the title of the article, which
publication, author and which section to look in. You would have also
gone and got it copied yourself if it existed.


Of course the simple fact you haven't, would imply that you are lying.


I still see no reason to amend the 'all mouth and trousers' view of all
this.


--
Spike

Rambo September 9th 17 12:26 PM

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On Sat, 9 Sep 2017 08:48:21 +0100, Brian Reay wrote:

On 08/09/17 22:37, Rambo wrote:



It is in the British Library, get off you backside and look for it.
You've already been told by someone else the index isn't online so your
trick of saying you can't find it is clearly a bluff.

In which you won't mind stating the title of the article, which
publication, author and which section to look in. You would have also
gone and got it copied yourself if it existed.

Of course the simple fact you haven't, would imply that you are lying.


So why hasn't your chum made good on his empty threats?

Like you he, falsely, claims the article is bogus.

He knows it isn't. He also knows it refers to him.

No matter how much you bluster Dumbo, it won't make the article any less
real or change who it refers to.

The article exists only in your head. Go see a therapist.

====
Visit North Kents 2nd biggest supplier of Sour Grapes
http://www.grapesdirect.co.uk

Brian Reay[_5_] September 9th 17 01:13 PM

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On 09/09/17 08:58, Spike wrote:
On 08/09/2017 22:37, Rambo wrote:
Brian Reay wrote:


It is in the British Library, get off you backside and look for it.
You've already been told by someone else the index isn't online so your
trick of saying you can't find it is clearly a bluff.


In which you won't mind stating the title of the article, which
publication, author and which section to look in. You would have also
gone and got it copied yourself if it existed.


Of course the simple fact you haven't, would imply that you are lying.


I still see no reason to amend the 'all mouth and trousers' view of all
this.



That is the view I have of Cummins, Dumbo, and you- as you mention it.


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