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[email protected] January 13th 05 07:41 PM

Are these antennas any good for both transmit and receive?
 
http://www.radioshack.com/product.as...ct%5Fid=20-043


Caveat Lector January 13th 05 08:20 PM

stryped The question box wrote : Are these antennas any good for both
transmit and receive?

Come on now help yourself a little bit -- the URL you gave has the answer
when you click on "Features"

It sez

Your radio shack discone antenna receives VHF and UHF frequencies between 25
MHz and 1300 MHz
(1.3 GHz), and transmits effectively at 50, 144, 220, 440, 900, and 1296
MHz. It handles a maximum transmitting output power of 200 watts and
provides a standing wave ratio (SWR) efficiency of 1.5:1 or better over
the receiving/transmitting spectrum.

Now why can I find that and not you ???

Are you putting us on here ????

--
Caveat Lector



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Dave Platt January 13th 05 08:49 PM

In article HKAFd.58$ru.27@fed1read07, Caveat Lector wrote:
stryped The question box wrote : Are these antennas any good for both
transmit and receive?

Come on now help yourself a little bit -- the URL you gave has the answer
when you click on "Features"


#snip#

Now why can I find that and not you ???

Are you putting us on here ????


The information as posted on the Web site is only part of the answer.
Heck, a good high-wattage dummy load would have a better bandwidth and
SWR than the discone, and yet it'd make a (somewhat) worse antenna.

As to the original question, is a discone "any good for both transmit
and receive?". I'd say the answer is "Yes, they're 'any good' but
they are not 'very good'."

They're compromise antennas - fairly wide bandwidth, acceptable SWR,
but a radiation pattern aimed at the sky or the ground (depending on
how you mount them) rather than out at the horizon. They're a decent
choice if you can only mount a single antenna, need to operate over a
wide range of frequencies, and don't need to be concerned about
weak-signal operations. My city ARES/RACES group uses them for
pre-sited emergency antennas at the city fire stations, community
centers, schools, and other such locations... plug an HT onto the end
of the drop cable and you're on the air. The results are quite
acceptable for working nearby repeaters, simplex to the city EOC,
and so forth.

They're a mediocre choice for serious single- or multi-band operation,
though.

--
Dave Platt AE6EO
Hosting the Jade Warrior home page: http://www.radagast.org/jade-warrior
I do _not_ wish to receive unsolicited commercial email, and I will
boycott any company which has the gall to send me such ads!

Caveat Lector January 13th 05 09:08 PM

The answer you gave was given to the question box several times in past
postings

He just keeps repeating the questions over and over

I for one give up trying to help him

--
Caveat Lector



"Dave Platt" wrote in message
...
In article HKAFd.58$ru.27@fed1read07, Caveat Lector
wrote:
stryped The question box wrote : Are these antennas any good for both
transmit and receive?

Come on now help yourself a little bit -- the URL you gave has the answer
when you click on "Features"


#snip#

Now why can I find that and not you ???

Are you putting us on here ????


The information as posted on the Web site is only part of the answer.
Heck, a good high-wattage dummy load would have a better bandwidth and
SWR than the discone, and yet it'd make a (somewhat) worse antenna.

As to the original question, is a discone "any good for both transmit
and receive?". I'd say the answer is "Yes, they're 'any good' but
they are not 'very good'."

They're compromise antennas - fairly wide bandwidth, acceptable SWR,
but a radiation pattern aimed at the sky or the ground (depending on
how you mount them) rather than out at the horizon. They're a decent
choice if you can only mount a single antenna, need to operate over a
wide range of frequencies, and don't need to be concerned about
weak-signal operations. My city ARES/RACES group uses them for
pre-sited emergency antennas at the city fire stations, community
centers, schools, and other such locations... plug an HT onto the end
of the drop cable and you're on the air. The results are quite
acceptable for working nearby repeaters, simplex to the city EOC,
and so forth.

They're a mediocre choice for serious single- or multi-band operation,
though.

--
Dave Platt AE6EO
Hosting the Jade Warrior home page: http://www.radagast.org/jade-warrior
I do _not_ wish to receive unsolicited commercial email, and I will
boycott any company which has the gall to send me such ads!




[email protected] January 13th 05 09:54 PM

That does not tell me if it is a "good" transmitt antenna compared to
other types. (Ground plane, j pole, etc.)


Jerry Martes January 13th 05 10:35 PM

Cav-- L

Stryped is kinda hard for me to figure out. He does seem to ask alot of
questions that could be easily answered by researching some basics. One
thing interesting is that he has gone to other news groups asking antenna
questions to metal workers. Yet he has no time/ability to search for
answerd with Google. I too have decided to "give up trying". I could
surely change my decision if he showed some effort to learn the normal way,
read/research, or just *do* something.

Jerry


"Caveat Lector" wrote in message
news:SqBFd.65$ru.53@fed1read07...
The answer you gave was given to the question box several times in past
postings

He just keeps repeating the questions over and over

I for one give up trying to help him

--
Caveat Lector



"Dave Platt" wrote in message
...
In article HKAFd.58$ru.27@fed1read07, Caveat Lector
wrote:
stryped The question box wrote : Are these antennas any good for both
transmit and receive?

Come on now help yourself a little bit -- the URL you gave has the answer
when you click on "Features"


#snip#

Now why can I find that and not you ???

Are you putting us on here ????


The information as posted on the Web site is only part of the answer.
Heck, a good high-wattage dummy load would have a better bandwidth and
SWR than the discone, and yet it'd make a (somewhat) worse antenna.

As to the original question, is a discone "any good for both transmit
and receive?". I'd say the answer is "Yes, they're 'any good' but
they are not 'very good'."

They're compromise antennas - fairly wide bandwidth, acceptable SWR,
but a radiation pattern aimed at the sky or the ground (depending on
how you mount them) rather than out at the horizon. They're a decent
choice if you can only mount a single antenna, need to operate over a
wide range of frequencies, and don't need to be concerned about
weak-signal operations. My city ARES/RACES group uses them for
pre-sited emergency antennas at the city fire stations, community
centers, schools, and other such locations... plug an HT onto the end
of the drop cable and you're on the air. The results are quite
acceptable for working nearby repeaters, simplex to the city EOC,
and so forth.

They're a mediocre choice for serious single- or multi-band operation,
though.

--
Dave Platt AE6EO
Hosting the Jade Warrior home page: http://www.radagast.org/jade-warrior
I do _not_ wish to receive unsolicited commercial email, and I will
boycott any company which has the gall to send me such ads!






Caveat Lector January 13th 05 10:53 PM

Agree Jerry reminds of an old adage

Give a man (person) a fish and he will be back the next day for another
(maybe 3 times a day - huh)

Teach a man to fish and he gains his respect and yours

We tried

Case closed

--
Caveat Lector



"Jerry Martes" wrote in message
news:xICFd.15610$ig7.2158@trnddc04...
Cav-- L

Stryped is kinda hard for me to figure out. He does seem to ask alot of
questions that could be easily answered by researching some basics. One
thing interesting is that he has gone to other news groups asking antenna
questions to metal workers. Yet he has no time/ability to search for
answerd with Google. I too have decided to "give up trying". I could
surely change my decision if he showed some effort to learn the normal
way, read/research, or just *do* something.

Jerry


"Caveat Lector" wrote in message
news:SqBFd.65$ru.53@fed1read07...
The answer you gave was given to the question box several times in past
postings

He just keeps repeating the questions over and over

I for one give up trying to help him

--
Caveat Lector



"Dave Platt" wrote in message
...
In article HKAFd.58$ru.27@fed1read07, Caveat Lector
wrote:
stryped The question box wrote : Are these antennas any good for both
transmit and receive?

Come on now help yourself a little bit -- the URL you gave has the
answer
when you click on "Features"

#snip#

Now why can I find that and not you ???

Are you putting us on here ????

The information as posted on the Web site is only part of the answer.
Heck, a good high-wattage dummy load would have a better bandwidth and
SWR than the discone, and yet it'd make a (somewhat) worse antenna.

As to the original question, is a discone "any good for both transmit
and receive?". I'd say the answer is "Yes, they're 'any good' but
they are not 'very good'."

They're compromise antennas - fairly wide bandwidth, acceptable SWR,
but a radiation pattern aimed at the sky or the ground (depending on
how you mount them) rather than out at the horizon. They're a decent
choice if you can only mount a single antenna, need to operate over a
wide range of frequencies, and don't need to be concerned about
weak-signal operations. My city ARES/RACES group uses them for
pre-sited emergency antennas at the city fire stations, community
centers, schools, and other such locations... plug an HT onto the end
of the drop cable and you're on the air. The results are quite
acceptable for working nearby repeaters, simplex to the city EOC,
and so forth.

They're a mediocre choice for serious single- or multi-band operation,
though.

--
Dave Platt AE6EO
Hosting the Jade Warrior home page: http://www.radagast.org/jade-warrior
I do _not_ wish to receive unsolicited commercial email, and I will
boycott any company which has the gall to send me such ads!








Howard January 14th 05 03:08 AM

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:53:31 -0800, "Caveat Lector"
wrote:

Agree Jerry reminds of an old adage

Give a man (person) a fish and he will be back the next day for another
(maybe 3 times a day - huh)

Teach a man to fish and he gains his respect and yours

We tried

Case closed


CL - If I may so address you? I 've also heard it as:
"Give a man a fish...."
"Teach a man to fish and he ends up spending his afternoons in a boat
drinking beer." I'm okay with either version as they are for
different social settings.

As to Stryped, I am in tune with you and Jerry in regard to further
assistance. To those of you answering with informative posts and
good social graces - my hat's off to you.
Howard

Jack Painter January 14th 05 06:30 AM


"Caveat Lector" wrote

stryped The question box wrote : Are these antennas any good for both
transmit and receive?

Are you putting us on here ????


I can't believe anyone is still taking the guy seriously since the first few
rounds. I wrote him off a long time ago when it was apparent he has heard of
everything, understands nothing, and refuses to look up anything, no matter
how simple.

Jack



CW January 15th 05 03:33 PM

You will prbably get a bunch of "don't buy Radio Shack junk" posts but I
have had one up and working fine for about ten years.

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