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Robert Lay W9DMK October 29th 04 03:31 AM

New Smith Chart Program - "SmartSmith"
 
SmartSmith for Windows is a Smith Chart program designed to provide a
convenient tool for designing transmission line matching sections. It
can also design matching sections for any electrical circuit in which
it is important to be able to visualize the progress being made while
configuring a particular matching section circuit element.

The program provides for data entry in the form of a complex
impedance in "a + jb" (Cartesian) form that is to be matched to a
purely resistive characteristic impedance as would typically be
encountered in transmission lines. The primary limitation of such an
approach for anything other than transmission lines is that the
characteristic impedance of the line to which we desire a match is
assumed to be purely resistive (no imaginary component).

SmartSmith for Windows provides the user with a suite of nine
different impedance transforming elements that can be used in the
program to implement an impedance match. These nine individually
configurable elements a
• Series Resistance (ohms)
• Shunt Conductance (milli-mhos)
• Series Capacitance (ohms of reactance and pF)
• Shunt Capacitive Susceptance (milli-Siemens )
• Series Inductance (ohms of reactance and uH)
• Shunt Inductive Susceptance (milli-Siemens)
• Open Stub (0 – 90 degrees, any Zo)
• Shorted Stub (90 – 0 degrees, any Zo)
• Series Trans. Line (-180 to 0 to +180 degrees, any Zo)

SmartSmith has many advantages over the paper Smith Chart. Plotting
impedance points on a Smith Chart can be very tedious. Each time a new
value of a design element is to be evaluated, the designer must
generate a new value of reactance in ohms for that element and must
then calculate a new value for the net impedance seen looking into the
circuit with this new value of matching section in place. The designer
then takes those new values of the real and imaginary parts,
normalizes those values and locates the correct coordinates on the
Smith Chart and draws a new point on the chart.

With SmartSmith that process is reduced to clicking the mouse on the
spin control to change the value of that design element and see the
new point being plotted instantaneously. SmartSmith also continuously
shows the complex values of normalized admittance and impedance as the
points are plotted.

In order to progress through the design steps, as a design element is
completed, the designer presses the “Keep and Continue” button in
order to take the latest value of impedance and save that as the new
Load impedance, leaving the plotted points on the Smith Chart. He then
picks the next matching section type and begins configuring that
element to continue the design, as necessary. At any point, the
designer can use the “Discard and Start Over” button to reset the
system to the last “Keep and Continue” values and select a different
type matching section.

The most important feature of SmartSmith is its Wizard. Having entered
the Load impedance into the program, the inexperienced designer may
not have any idea where to begin. By pressing the “What Would the
Wizard Advise” button, the user is taken through a set of simple steps
to transform that impedance to 1 + j0, normalized, and those steps
have been automatically chosen based on the region of the Smith Chart
in which the Load impedance is located.

Download your free copy of SmartSmith version 1.1 using the following
link (slightly larger than 2 MB):

http://www.qsl.net/w9dmk/SWDownloads/SmartSmith11.zip

Or, visit my Web site and peruse all of the free software at:

http://www.qsl.net/w9dmk


Bob, W9DMK, Dahlgren, VA
http://www.qsl.net/w9dmk

Richard Clark October 29th 04 04:01 AM

On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 02:31:10 GMT, (Robert Lay
W9DMK) wrote:

Download your free copy of SmartSmith version 1.1 using the following
link (slightly larger than 2 MB):

http://www.qsl.net/w9dmk/SWDownloads/SmartSmith11.zip

Or, visit my Web site and peruse all of the free software at:

http://www.qsl.net/w9dmk


Hi Bob,

Thanx, I look forward to trying this out.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

JGBOYLES October 30th 04 12:20 AM

Can't download the file Bob, wonder if anyone else has had a problem. Tried 5
times.
73 Gary N4AST

Robert Lay W9DMK October 30th 04 01:08 AM

On 29 Oct 2004 23:20:25 GMT, (JGBOYLES) wrote:

Can't download the file Bob, wonder if anyone else has had a problem. Tried 5
times.
73 Gary N4AST


Dear Gary,

I have only had one person send me a message about the program and he
said nothing about any problem in downloading. Could you tell me
whether you are clicking on the link while at my Web page or are you
using the link that I put in my posting to rraa?

If you are not successful, send me a message at
,
and I will send it to you as an attachment.


Bob, W9DMK, Dahlgren, VA
http://www.qsl.net/w9dmk

Barnacle Bill October 30th 04 02:15 AM

In article , Robert Lay W9DMK wrote:
On 29 Oct 2004 23:20:25 GMT, (JGBOYLES) wrote:

Can't download the file Bob, wonder if anyone else has had a problem. Tried 5
times.
73 Gary N4AST


Dear Gary,

I have only had one person send me a message about the program and he
said nothing about any problem in downloading. Could you tell me
whether you are clicking on the link while at my Web page or are you
using the link that I put in my posting to rraa?

If you are not successful, send me a message at
,
and I will send it to you as an attachment.


Bob, W9DMK, Dahlgren, VA
http://www.qsl.net/w9dmk


qsl.net is notoriously slow. Anybody with a fat pipe (I got T1 at work) can
see this. I tried today and got nowhere, both with the link in the post and
on the website. Too bad, these look like great programs. I would be
willing to PAY for them on a cd.

Robert Lay W9DMK October 30th 04 04:37 AM

On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 01:15:58 -0000, Barnacle Bill
wrote:

qsl.net is notoriously slow. Anybody with a fat pipe (I got T1 at work) can
see this. I tried today and got nowhere, both with the link in the post and
on the website. Too bad, these look like great programs. I would be
willing to PAY for them on a cd.


Dear Bill,

Slow is relative. For someone like me with a V.90 modem, everything
seems slow. I get the same download speeds from QSL as from anywhere
else - about 4 kBytes/sec.

Getting the software on is easier than you might think. I will try to
honor such requests for what is essentially my costs, so long as the
volume of requests isn't too high.

Anyone who sends me a Self Addressed 6" x 9" clasp type manila
envelope with a dollar bill in it gets a CD by return mail.

R. Lay
15517 Delaware Dr.
King George, VA 22485
Bob, W9DMK, Dahlgren, VA
http://www.qsl.net/w9dmk

Roy Lewallen October 30th 04 09:21 AM

I successfully (I think) downloaded the file about a day ago, but the
speed was extremely slow. It was about the speed of a dialup connection,
although I have a T1 speed line.

Roy Lewallen, W7EL

Barnacle Bill wrote:

qsl.net is notoriously slow. Anybody with a fat pipe (I got T1 at work) can
see this. I tried today and got nowhere, both with the link in the post and
on the website. Too bad, these look like great programs. I would be
willing to PAY for them on a cd.


Old Ed October 30th 04 07:13 PM

Hi Bob -

Thank you very much for making these available!

I just downloaded SmartSmith from your qsl.net links,
and I'm looking forward to trying it.

BTW, qsl.net WAS spectacularly slow, averaging
0.5 kB/s. It's a good thing this was "only" 2MB.

73, Ed, W6LOL



Robert Lay W9DMK October 31st 04 02:40 AM

On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 23:52:24 -0000, Barnacle Bill
wrote:


Some of us have gotten spoiled rotten by our wideband connections. I for
one have a T1 at work and do most of my downloading there. Maybe it's time
to step back, take a deep breath, and recall when we had a 1200 baud modem!


Dear BB,

Amen!

My first experience with "dial-up" was in 1965. I was asked to try out
a program in Basic that designed electric motors. You had to dial up
this big main frame in Boston - Dartmouth, I think. We had a teletype
as a terminal and an acoustic modem at 300 baud. The acoustic modem
was a telephone handset with sponge cups for earpiece and mouthpiece
that snugged around the telephone handset. Acoustic coupling means no
electric connection - good for lightning isolation - Hi!

You typed in your Basic program and tried it out. If you wanted to pay
a monthly fee for storage you could save your typed in program on
their disk for a monthly fee. Talk about a text based interface -
primitive doesn't even begin to describe it.

I am tickled to have V.90 at somewhere above 33 kBaud. It makes your
head swim to think about where it will be 5 years from now.
Bob, W9DMK, Dahlgren, VA
http://www.qsl.net/w9dmk

Cecil Moore October 31st 04 03:46 AM

Barnacle Bill wrote:
Maybe it's time
to step back, take a deep breath, and recall when we had a 1200 baud modem!


I remember saving up for a 300 baud modem.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp


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Bob Miller October 31st 04 01:39 PM

On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 23:52:24 -0000, Barnacle Bill
wrote:




Some of us have gotten spoiled rotten by our wideband connections. I for
one have a T1 at work and do most of my downloading there. Maybe it's time
to step back, take a deep breath, and recall when we had a 1200 baud modem!
;^)

BB


I still have my little Radio Shack Model 100 portable pc, with its
mighty 300-baud modem. Them was the times...

bob
k5qwg



Wes Stewart October 31st 04 02:17 PM

On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 02:40:26 GMT, (Robert Lay
W9DMK) wrote about broadband:

[snip]
| It makes your
|head swim to think about where it will be 5 years from now.
|Bob, W9DMK, Dahlgren, VA

Colin Powell's little boy will be giving us BPL any day now and our
problems will be over. [g]

Interesting that CFR Title 47 part 97 states in part:

"Sec. 97.1 Basis and purpose.
The rules and regulations in this part are designed to provide an
amateur radio service having a fundamental purpose as expressed in the
following principles:
(a) Recognition and enhancement of the value of the amateur
service to the public as a voluntary noncommercial communication
service, _particularly with respect to providing emergency
communications_." (emphasis added)

And yet the ARRL reports on the latest BPL news:

"We similarly do not find that Amateur Radio frequencies warrant the
special protection afforded frequencies reserved for international
aeronautical and maritime safety operations," the Commission said.
"While we recognize that amateurs may on occasion assist in providing
emergency communications," the FCC added. It described typical amateur
operations as "routine communications and hobby activities."

I guess during the next forest fire, earthquake, tornado, hurricane,
boating accident or terrorist attack we can just sit back and play
with our toys while all of the real communications takes place on the
Internets, as GWB would say.



Walter Maxwell October 31st 04 07:58 PM

On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 02:40:26 GMT, (Robert Lay W9DMK) wrote:

Dear BB,

Amen!

My first experience with "dial-up" was in 1965. I was asked to try out
a program in Basic that designed electric motors. You had to dial up
this big main frame in Boston - Dartmouth, I think. We had a teletype
as a terminal and an acoustic modem at 300 baud. The acoustic modem
was a telephone handset with sponge cups for earpiece and mouthpiece
that snugged around the telephone handset. Acoustic coupling means no
electric connection - good for lightning isolation - Hi!

You typed in your Basic program and tried it out. If you wanted to pay
a monthly fee for storage you could save your typed in program on
their disk for a monthly fee. Talk about a text based interface -
primitive doesn't even begin to describe it.

I am tickled to have V.90 at somewhere above 33 kBaud. It makes your
head swim to think about where it will be 5 years from now.
Bob, W9DMK, Dahlgren, VA
http://www.qsl.net/w9dmk

Hi Bob, thanks for the new Smith program. I did have a problem downloading it,
and still don't know if it's all there.

We're returning to Florida early tomorrow morning, and once I get the external
drive connected down there I'll determine if your program is in working order.
If not, I'll email you for a new download.

So far, it looks like a real winner!

Walt

Reg Edwards October 31st 04 10:15 PM

Smith Charts went out of date wth slide rules and log tables with the advent
of the pocket calculator.

Be real engineers. Get yourselves into the 21st century.
----
Reg



John Smith November 1st 04 12:25 AM


"JGBOYLES" wrote in message
...
Smith Charts went out of date wth slide rules and log tables with the
advent
of the pocket calculator.

Be real engineers. Get yourselves into the 21st century.


Hi Reg, Since this is an Amateur Radio Newsgroup, why do you think we
should
all be real engineers? Do you write all of your excellent programs for
the
sole benefit of the real engineers?
I have used your programs, Smith Chart Programs, and a number of others
that
I have found to sucessfully design antennas and matching networks. If I
had to
choose between your programs and the Smith Chart, I would have to say I
like
both.
73 Gary N4AST



You're much too tactful, Gary. Are you a politician?

John



Barnacle Bill November 1st 04 04:54 AM

In article , Bob Miller wrote:
On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 23:52:24 -0000, Barnacle Bill
wrote:




Some of us have gotten spoiled rotten by our wideband connections. I for
one have a T1 at work and do most of my downloading there. Maybe it's time
to step back, take a deep breath, and recall when we had a 1200 baud modem!
;^)

BB


I still have my little Radio Shack Model 100 portable pc, with its
mighty 300-baud modem. Them was the times...

bob
k5qwg


Hey, I still have mine too! In fact, I just dug it out of a 'mystery box'
in the attic. It still works. Back in the 80's, I used in my land survey
business; I wrote a COGO program in BASIC on it that worked like a charm...

BB

Bob Miller November 1st 04 03:06 PM

On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 04:54:54 -0000, Barnacle Bill
wrote:

In article , Bob Miller wrote:
On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 23:52:24 -0000, Barnacle Bill
wrote:




Some of us have gotten spoiled rotten by our wideband connections. I for
one have a T1 at work and do most of my downloading there. Maybe it's time
to step back, take a deep breath, and recall when we had a 1200 baud modem!
;^)

BB


I still have my little Radio Shack Model 100 portable pc, with its
mighty 300-baud modem. Them was the times...

bob
k5qwg


Hey, I still have mine too! In fact, I just dug it out of a 'mystery box'
in the attic. It still works. Back in the 80's, I used in my land survey
business; I wrote a COGO program in BASIC on it that worked like a charm...

BB


There's actually a user group for the little booger -- see
http://www.club100.org/

bob
k5qwg



Cecil Moore November 1st 04 05:08 PM

Reg Edwards wrote:
Smith Charts went out of date wth slide rules and log tables with the advent
of the pocket calculator.


An abstract math equation will get one the answer but not necessarily
illustrate what is happening in reality. We see the results of that here
on this newsgroup. The appeal of the Smith Chart is that it gives one
a graphic conceptual grasp of reality while using those same equations
to solve the problem. A picture *is* worth a thousand words. We can
see the (Vfor+Vref)/(Ifor/Iref) impedance displayed right there on
the SWR circle.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp


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chuck November 1st 04 06:44 PM


"Robert Lay W9DMK" wrote in message
...

Download your free copy of SmartSmith version 1.1 using the following
link (slightly larger than 2 MB):


Hi Bob,

What a dissapointment - spending so much
time in downloading your progam (three
attempts), only to have it fail in its installation.

Your installer told me I have an outdated file it
needs to replace. Afer allowing - and rebooting
- the installer did not continue. When attempting
another install, I get the same response... ad
infinitum.

Chuck, WA7RAI



Reg Edwards November 1st 04 07:31 PM

I can't deny its small educational value. There are other things besides
transmissions lines. Its worth a single lecture in a 3 year course as are
numerous other graphical methods of illustrating electrical principles..

But unless one is made aware of its limitations and its inaccuracies (which
takes up half the lecture) it can in fact damage an education and turn a
student into an old-wife.

But it's fine for old-timers who've had years of practice and can use it
with their eyes shut as they already know the answer before they start.

It is a paper instrument which assists in performing very simple algebraic
calculations - provided you already know what its all about.

I appreciate its historical, nostalgic, sentimental value. If you gaze at it
long enough it acquires a certain beauty. And it served a very uselul,
time-saving purpose when in vogue during the 1940's.
----
Reg


"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
...
Reg Edwards wrote:
Smith Charts went out of date wth slide rules and log tables with the

advent
of the pocket calculator.


An abstract math equation will get one the answer but not necessarily
illustrate what is happening in reality. We see the results of that here
on this newsgroup. The appeal of the Smith Chart is that it gives one
a graphic conceptual grasp of reality while using those same equations
to solve the problem. A picture *is* worth a thousand words. We can
see the (Vfor+Vref)/(Ifor/Iref) impedance displayed right there on
the SWR circle.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp


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Barnacle Bill November 2nd 04 02:23 AM

In article , Bob Miller wrote:
On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 04:54:54 -0000, Barnacle Bill
wrote:

In article , Bob Miller wrote:
On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 23:52:24 -0000, Barnacle Bill
wrote:




Some of us have gotten spoiled rotten by our wideband connections. I for
one have a T1 at work and do most of my downloading there. Maybe it's time
to step back, take a deep breath, and recall when we had a 1200 baud modem!
;^)

BB

I still have my little Radio Shack Model 100 portable pc, with its
mighty 300-baud modem. Them was the times...

bob
k5qwg


Hey, I still have mine too! In fact, I just dug it out of a 'mystery box'
in the attic. It still works. Back in the 80's, I used in my land survey
business; I wrote a COGO program in BASIC on it that worked like a charm...

BB


There's actually a user group for the little booger -- see
http://www.club100.org/

bob
k5qwg


Wow! Tnx, I was gonna toss it. Not now!

BB

Barnacle Bill November 2nd 04 02:31 AM

In article , Reg Edwards wrote:
Smith Charts went out of date wth slide rules and log tables with the advent
of the pocket calculator.

Be real engineers. Get yourselves into the 21st century.
----
Reg



You know, I thought the same way for a while. In my land survey business, I
progressed quickly into using Autocad and total stations with data
collectors, but I never forgot the old ways. I could tape a 10,000 ft. line
through moderate terrain with 1/50,000 accuracy/precision, and close a
traverse with book of log tables and trig tables. Thanks to frequent power
outages around here, and dead batteries, I got to use both. keep the old
technologies alive!

Bill

Chuck November 2nd 04 07:07 AM


Bill Turner wrote in message
...
On Mon, 1 Nov 2004 11:44:40 -0700, "chuck" wrote:

Hi Bob,

What a disappointment - spending so much
time in downloading your program (three
attempts), only to have it fail in its installation.

Your installer told me I have an outdated file it
needs to replace. After allowing - and rebooting
- the installer did not continue. When attempting
another install, I get the same response... ad
infinitum.

Chuck, WA7RAI


__________________________________________________ _______

I had a similar problem during install. Use msconfig.exe to shut off
all background apps, reboot and reinstall. Worked for me.

--
Bill W6WRT


Interesting... I've never run across anything
like this before. Did the apps that you shut
down include your firewall, web-bug or Trojan
detectors, and/or anti-virus apps as well?

Chuck





Tam/WB2TT November 2nd 04 02:43 PM


"Chuck" wrote in message
news:AmGhd.4864$GN4.3904@okepread02...

Bill Turner wrote in message
...
On Mon, 1 Nov 2004 11:44:40 -0700, "chuck" wrote:

Hi Bob,

What a disappointment - spending so much
time in downloading your program (three
attempts), only to have it fail in its installation.

Your installer told me I have an outdated file it
needs to replace. After allowing - and rebooting
- the installer did not continue. When attempting
another install, I get the same response... ad
infinitum.

Chuck, WA7RAI


__________________________________________________ _______

I had a similar problem during install. Use msconfig.exe to shut off
all background apps, reboot and reinstall. Worked for me.

--
Bill W6WRT


Interesting... I've never run across anything
like this before. Did the apps that you shut
down include your firewall, web-bug or Trojan
detectors, and/or anti-virus apps as well?

Chuck

I did not shut down anything, but on Windows XP I got 3 or 4 messages that
said the file I was trying to install was older than what was already there.
I kept the existing files. Installed and runs OK. BTW, downloaded at about 3
KBs.

Tam/WB2TT



J. Mc Laughlin November 2nd 04 06:14 PM

Even though I did not have the advantage of attending Texas A&M, I agree
with Cecil. In classes for real electrical engineers, the Smith Chart still
provides a superb means for instilling important concepts. A means that can
then be reinforced with computations.
In my experience, the greatest advantage of including the Smith Chart in
real education resides in the long term effects. Forever, an engineer will
be able to visualize effects and be able, even on the telephone, to describe
effects to another similarly "equipped" engineer. The Smith Chart is an
important part of the way we communicate. Its utility insures its
preservation for a long time to come.

73 Mac N8TT

--
J. Mc Laughlin; Michigan U.S.A.
Home:
"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
...
Reg Edwards wrote:
Smith Charts went out of date wth slide rules and log tables with the

advent
of the pocket calculator.


An abstract math equation will get one the answer but not necessarily
illustrate what is happening in reality. We see the results of that here
on this newsgroup. The appeal of the Smith Chart is that it gives one
a graphic conceptual grasp of reality while using those same equations
to solve the problem. A picture *is* worth a thousand words. We can
see the (Vfor+Vref)/(Ifor/Iref) impedance displayed right there on
the SWR circle.
--
73, Cecil
http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp






chuck November 2nd 04 08:00 PM


"Tam/WB2TT" wrote in message
...

"Chuck" wrote in message
news:AmGhd.4864$GN4.3904@okepread02...

Bill Turner wrote in message
...
On Mon, 1 Nov 2004 11:44:40 -0700, "chuck" wrote:

Hi Bob,

What a disappointment - spending so much
time in downloading your program (three
attempts), only to have it fail in its installation.

Your installer told me I have an outdated file it
needs to replace. After allowing - and rebooting
- the installer did not continue. When attempting
another install, I get the same response... ad
infinitum.

Chuck, WA7RAI

__________________________________________________ _______

I had a similar problem during install. Use msconfig.exe to shut off
all background apps, reboot and reinstall. Worked for me.

--
Bill W6WRT


Interesting... I've never run across anything
like this before. Did the apps that you shut
down include your firewall, web-bug or Trojan
detectors, and/or anti-virus apps as well?

Chuck

I did not shut down anything, but on Windows XP I got 3 or 4 messages that
said the file I was trying to install was older than what was already

there.
I kept the existing files. Installed and runs OK. BTW, downloaded at about

3
KBs.

Tam/WB2TT

Hi Tam,

Since I'm not running XP, perhaps this
explains it, though this dosen't dispell
my curiosity... I naturally distrust any
freeware that installs abnormally...
spyware, and all that stuff, y'know.

Chuck




kd5foy November 9th 04 12:28 AM


i setup an apache web server at http://64.217.230.66/. try downloading
from there, it should be faster. remove the
obvious from my posted email address and let me know the outcome.

larry
kd5foy





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