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Simon Smith December 7th 04 12:12 AM

Celebrations !!!!
 
I took my foundation license and morse exam to-day, and both were
sucessful.
All I have to do now is to: choose a transceiver - choose a tuner - choose
an antenna - find someone to errect it - get a log book - and I'm sure there
are lot's of other things ..... Anyway .... now I've shared my excitement
with you all - I feel much better.
John in Cornwall UK



Richard Clark December 7th 04 12:39 AM

On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 00:12:00 +0000 (UTC), "Simon Smith"
wrote:

I took my foundation license and morse exam to-day, and both were
sucessful.


Congratulations John.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Jim - NN7K December 7th 04 12:49 AM

Congrats, and enjoy--- but as a thread of a couple days ago reminded --
( You have been warned ), just remember , to quote: "WE ARE ALL NUTS"
:) Best-- Jim NN7K

Simon Smith wrote:
I took my foundation license and morse exam to-day, and both were
sucessful.
All I have to do now is to: choose a transceiver - choose a tuner - choose
an antenna - find someone to errect it - get a log book - and I'm sure there
are lot's of other things ..... Anyway .... now I've shared my excitement
with you all - I feel much better.
John in Cornwall UK



H. Adam Stevens, NQ5H December 7th 04 01:10 AM


"Jim - NN7K" wrote in message
. com...
Congrats, and enjoy--- but as a thread of a couple days ago reminded --
( You have been warned ), just remember , to quote: "WE ARE ALL NUTS"
:) Best-- Jim NN7K

Simon Smith wrote:
I took my foundation license and morse exam to-day, and both were
sucessful.
All I have to do now is to: choose a transceiver - choose a tuner -
choose an antenna - find someone to errect it - get a log book - and I'm
sure there are lot's of other things ..... Anyway .... now I've shared my
excitement with you all - I feel much better.
John in Cornwall UK

But this nut, when he was 14, April 1964, took the bus from Waco to Dallas,
walked to the Federal Building, took the 13 WPM test and the written.
Nailed them both.
1964
So there.
73
H.

Oh yeah, welcome to the club.



Dave Bushong December 7th 04 01:55 AM

Simon Smith wrote:
I took my foundation license and morse exam to-day, and both were
sucessful.
All I have to do now is to: choose a transceiver - choose a tuner - choose
an antenna - find someone to errect it - get a log book - and I'm sure there
are lot's of other things ..... Anyway .... now I've shared my excitement
with you all - I feel much better.
John in Cornwall UK



Foundation license? Which is that????

Simon, good luck to you, and you should spend more time on the air than
you spend here. Get away from this web site - the rec.radio.amateur.*
newsgroups are mostly counter-productive. You will find people here
who, well, don't get on the air (I don't know how else to say it).

You should go work CW, work voice, spend some time on SSTV, and then on
PSK, and try some of the funky digital modes, and of course, do some
SSB, but make it so much fun that you can't even explain to your friends
why you spend every weekend doing it.

You will see -- it's the best hobby you have ever picked.

Take care, and all the best, and 73

Dave
kz1o

David G. Nagel December 7th 04 02:50 AM

Dave Bushong wrote:

Simon Smith wrote:

I took my foundation license and morse exam to-day, and both were
sucessful.
All I have to do now is to: choose a transceiver - choose a tuner -
choose an antenna - find someone to errect it - get a log book - and
I'm sure there are lot's of other things ..... Anyway .... now I've
shared my excitement with you all - I feel much better.
John in Cornwall UK


Foundation license? Which is that????

British...

Congratulations Simon. Hope to see you on the air someday.

Dave WD9BDZ



Simon, good luck to you, and you should spend more time on the air than
you spend here. Get away from this web site - the rec.radio.amateur.*
newsgroups are mostly counter-productive. You will find people here
who, well, don't get on the air (I don't know how else to say it).

You should go work CW, work voice, spend some time on SSTV, and then on
PSK, and try some of the funky digital modes, and of course, do some
SSB, but make it so much fun that you can't even explain to your friends
why you spend every weekend doing it.

You will see -- it's the best hobby you have ever picked.

Take care, and all the best, and 73

Dave
kz1o


[email protected] December 7th 04 02:56 AM


H. Adam Stevens, NQ5H wrote:
"Jim - NN7K" wrote in message
. com...
Congrats, and enjoy--- but as a thread of a couple days ago

reminded --
( You have been warned ), just remember , to quote: "WE ARE ALL

NUTS"
:) Best-- Jim NN7K

Simon Smith wrote:
I took my foundation license and morse exam to-day, and both were


sucessful.
All I have to do now is to: choose a transceiver - choose a tuner

-
choose an antenna - find someone to errect it - get a log book -

and I'm
sure there are lot's of other things ..... Anyway .... now I've

shared my
excitement with you all - I feel much better.
John in Cornwall UK


Get on the air and enjoy, Simon!

But this nut, when he was 14, April 1964, took the bus from Waco to

Dallas,
walked to the Federal Building, took the 13 WPM test and the written.
Nailed them both.
1964
So there.


This raving looney & class nerd hiked uphill both ways in a raging
blizzard to the Old Customhouse in Philly and passed the 5wpm Novice
thing 1953. Follwed shortly by the same trek for the 13wpm test for the
General. Thought I had it made for life and that I'd seen the last of
those squinty-eyed FCC examiners. But, nah, they reshuffled the deck
and "invited me back" in 1968 to take the 20wpm Extra. Figgered that
since we were getting snowed in I also took/passed the Second
Radiotelegraph to kill some time . .

.. . . (so there) . . ?
73
H.


w3rv


Oh yeah, welcome to the club.



The Modulator December 7th 04 03:04 AM

Golly let me take exception Dave

The newsgroups - particularly this one is a great Amateur Radio asset --
many knowledgeable antenna gurus here.
Many technical questions and answers are fielded on the NG's every day.

Yes NGs are free and open forums -- so you will find many junk posts, but
weed thru them and there is really some good stuff.

As for being on the air -- anyone on HF will know that "A foundation
License" has been issued in the UK since January 2002
See URL:
http://www.rsgb.org/beginners/licences.htm

Many many folks on the NGs are on the air frequently -- see
rec.radio.amateur.dx or the digital or satellite groups

Anyway congratulations are in order for John in Cornwell.

Dave gave you some great ideas for modes of operation and I agree "You will
see -- it's the best hobby you have ever picked."

Welcome to Ham Radio

73, Happy Holidays, and enjoy the many facets of Amateur Radio

--
The Modulator In The USA -- RF Gotta Go Somewhere



"Dave Bushong" wrote in message
...
Simon Smith wrote:
I took my foundation license and morse exam to-day, and both were
sucessful.
All I have to do now is to: choose a transceiver - choose a tuner -
choose an antenna - find someone to errect it - get a log book - and I'm
sure there are lot's of other things ..... Anyway .... now I've shared my
excitement with you all - I feel much better.
John in Cornwall UK


Foundation license? Which is that????

Simon, good luck to you, and you should spend more time on the air than
you spend here. Get away from this web site - the rec.radio.amateur.*
newsgroups are mostly counter-productive. You will find people here who,
well, don't get on the air (I don't know how else to say it).

You should go work CW, work voice, spend some time on SSTV, and then on
PSK, and try some of the funky digital modes, and of course, do some SSB,
but make it so much fun that you can't even explain to your friends why
you spend every weekend doing it.

You will see -- it's the best hobby you have ever picked.

Take care, and all the best, and 73

Dave
kz1o




Topaz305RK December 7th 04 03:38 AM

John

Congrats and "Good-on-ya".

Hope you get everything you wish for and once set up we can have a nice
chat on the air on SSB, CW, PSK31, whatever.

K7SAM




Bob Bob December 7th 04 09:17 AM

Well done Simon

Cheers Bob VK2YQA

Simon Smith wrote:
I took my foundation license and morse exam to-day, and both were
sucessful.
All I have to do now is to: choose a transceiver - choose a tuner - choose
an antenna - find someone to errect it - get a log book - and I'm sure there
are lot's of other things ..... Anyway .... now I've shared my excitement
with you all - I feel much better.
John in Cornwall UK



H. Adam Stevens, NQ5H December 7th 04 01:07 PM


"Bob Bob" wrote in message
...
Well done Simon

Cheers Bob VK2YQA

Simon Smith wrote:
I took my foundation license and morse exam to-day, and both were
sucessful.
All I have to do now is to: choose a transceiver - choose a tuner -
choose an antenna - find someone to errect it - get a log book - and I'm
sure there are lot's of other things ..... Anyway .... now I've shared my
excitement with you all - I feel much better.
John in Cornwall UK

Welcome to the club.
I am on 20 meters (Spiderweb Net, 14.347 MHz) as I type.
So much for usenet displacing actual ham radio operation.
73, H.



K7MEM December 7th 04 01:23 PM

H. Adam Stevens, NQ5H wrote:
"Jim - NN7K" wrote in message
. com...

Congrats, and enjoy--- but as a thread of a couple days ago reminded --
( You have been warned ), just remember , to quote: "WE ARE ALL NUTS"
:) Best-- Jim NN7K

Simon Smith wrote:

I took my foundation license and morse exam to-day, and both were
sucessful.
All I have to do now is to: choose a transceiver - choose a tuner -
choose an antenna - find someone to errect it - get a log book - and I'm
sure there are lot's of other things ..... Anyway .... now I've shared my
excitement with you all - I feel much better.
John in Cornwall UK


But this nut, when he was 14, April 1964, took the bus from Waco to Dallas,
walked to the Federal Building, took the 13 WPM test and the written.
Nailed them both.
1964
So there.
73
H.

Oh yeah, welcome to the club.


Not to diminish anyone's achievements, but that is the way to do things.
Take as many tests as you can, at one time. Keep on taking them until
you fail one. Then go back home and study some more.

As long as we are beating our chests, several years ago I walked in to
the testing station and took the Technician test, General test, and
13 WPM test in one sitting. Aced them all. Then, 6 months later, I did
the Advanced test, Extra test, and the 20 WPM in one sitting. Again,
acing them all.

But congratulations to John in Cornwall UK. We will be waiting to hear
you on the bands. Not only are we NUTS, we are MIXED NUTS.

--
Martin E. Meserve - K7MEM
http://www.k7mem.com

Peter December 7th 04 05:10 PM

On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 00:12:00 +0000 (UTC), "Simon Smith"
wrote:

I took my foundation license and morse exam to-day, and both were
sucessful.
All I have to do now is to: choose a transceiver - choose a tuner - choose
an antenna - find someone to errect it - get a log book - and I'm sure there
are lot's of other things ..... Anyway .... now I've shared my excitement
with you all - I feel much better.
John in Cornwall UK



Many congratulations JOhn..


Peter, G3PHO

Edwin Johnson December 8th 04 02:23 PM

On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 00:12:00 +0000 (UTC), Simon Smith
wrote:

I took my foundation license and morse exam to-day, and both were
sucessful.
All I have to do now is to: choose a transceiver - choose a tuner - choose
an antenna - find someone to errect it - get a log book - and I'm sure there
are lot's of other things ..... Anyway .... now I've shared my excitement
with you all - I feel much better.
John in Cornwall UK


Congratulations, John! You will find this hobby very rewarding in the high
quality of people you meet, an educational process, and a satisfying list of
different avenues in which to pursue the hobby. Enjoy!

....Edwin, KD5ZLB
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~ Edwin Johnson ....... ~
~
http://www.shreve.net/~elj ~
~ ~
~ "Once you have flown, you will walk the ~
~ earth with your eyes turned skyward, ~
~ for there you have been, there you long ~
~ to return." -- da Vinci ~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Airy R. Bean December 8th 04 03:19 PM

No. What you need to do now is to pass the Intermediate
and the Advanced courses to become a Radio Ham.

At the moment you are something worse than a CBer.
(The CBer doesn't have to take any exams and is considered
to be competent. He doesn't have to prove anything)

Children below the age of 10 years can do what you boast of.

"Simon Smith" wrote in message
...
I took my foundation license and morse exam to-day, and both were
sucessful.
All I have to do now is to: choose a transceiver - choose a tuner -

choose
an antenna - find someone to errect it - get a log book - and I'm sure

there
are lot's of other things ..... Anyway .... now I've shared my excitement
with you all - I feel much better.




Airy R. Bean December 8th 04 03:21 PM

AKA The M3/CB Fools' Licence which is
a gangrenous degeneration of Ham Radio
that has admitted the Mongolian Hordes of
CBers onto 40m.

"Dave Bushong" wrote in message
...
Foundation license? Which is that????




Airy R. Bean December 8th 04 03:22 PM

Rare for you not to behave like a 5-year old.

"Peter" wrote in message
...
Many congratulations JOhn..




Simon Smith December 8th 04 06:18 PM

Mr Bean
With the greatest respect.
I have no control over the RSGB and their decision to allow "new members"
with an easy foundation test.
Perhaps it was because the hobby was in need of some new Blood.
I was not allowed to sit the advanced test - or the intermediate test. I had
to start off in exactly the same place as you did - at the very bottom.
I suppose you started off at the very top did you ? You must be absolutely
brilliant !!
By the way I;m a retired research technologist with a Mathematics and
Chemistry degree - hardly a Mongolian mooron !
Why dont you write to the RSGB - perhaps they could make use of your
services in an advisory capacity.
"73's Mr Bean.




"Airy R. Bean" wrote in message
...
AKA The M3/CB Fools' Licence which is
a gangrenous degeneration of Ham Radio
that has admitted the Mongolian Hordes of
CBers onto 40m.

"Dave Bushong" wrote in message
...
Foundation license? Which is that????






Gary Cavie December 8th 04 07:18 PM

In article , says...
No. What you need to do now is to pass the Intermediate
and the Advanced courses to become a Radio Ham.

At the moment you are something worse than a CBer.
(The CBer doesn't have to take any exams and is considered
to be competent. He doesn't have to prove anything)

Children below the age of 10 years can do what you boast of.


I'm so glad to see that you never originate infantile comments, Gareth.

Well done John

Airy R. Bean December 8th 04 08:37 PM

You might have to take the exam.

You don't have to take out the licence.

If you're as well educated as you claim, then you
could slip through all the exams with ease.

The M3/CB Fools' Licence is a gangrenous degeneration
of the technical pursuit (not a hobby) that is Ham Radio.

It is not and never was in need of "New Blood". If that
"New Blood " does not make its own gear then that "new
blood" is of the CB type and not the Ham Radio type.

Everybody had to start off with the RAE. That it was passed
with facility by otherwise-unqualified self-taught 14-year-olds
meant that there was never a need to lower the standards to
introduce the Novice (Now Intermediate) exam. That the
Novice was introduced means that there was _DEFINITELY_
no need to introduce the Fools' Licence whereby someone
starting out with no interest at all could have a "licence" after
only a two-day weekend course.

8-year-old children who do not even have the mathematical
background to work out resistances in series and parallel, the
most fundamental technical skill of any Radio Ham, are
getting Fools' Licences, thereby showing that one thing the
Fools' Licence is not, and that is a Ham Radio Licence.

I refuse to QSO with M3/CB Fools' Licensees precisely
because the licence is the thin end of the wedge leading to
non-technical Hams who are forbidden to build their own gear.

I exhort everybody who reads this post to refuse to QSO
with such licensees, not because of any personal issues, but
purely because of the threat that the M3/CB Fools' Licence
presents to Ham Radio if it is allowed to continue.

"Simon Smith" wrote in message
...
Mr Bean
With the greatest respect.
I have no control over the RSGB and their decision to allow "new members"
with an easy foundation test.
Perhaps it was because the hobby was in need of some new Blood.
I was not allowed to sit the advanced test - or the intermediate test. I

had
to start off in exactly the same place as you did - at the very bottom.
I suppose you started off at the very top did you ? You must be

absolutely
brilliant !!
By the way I;m a retired research technologist with a Mathematics and
Chemistry degree - hardly a Mongolian mooron !
Why dont you write to the RSGB - perhaps they could make use of your
services in an advisory capacity.




Simon Smith December 8th 04 10:15 PM

If I migh say so Mr. Bean - You sound just like the sort of person that "Ham
Radio" is trying to weed out and be rid of. Your attitude is in the
minority.
With all the modern tranceivers on the market to-day it is not necessary to
build your own.
If I had been permitted to sit, and pass all three stages of the license in
one sitting , would that have made me a more responsible person ? I think
not.
You are entitled to your opinion - and I respect it but please - everyone
has to be allowed to start somewhere.
"Airy R. Bean" wrote in message
...
You might have to take the exam.

You don't have to take out the licence.

If you're as well educated as you claim, then you
could slip through all the exams with ease.

The M3/CB Fools' Licence is a gangrenous degeneration
of the technical pursuit (not a hobby) that is Ham Radio.

It is not and never was in need of "New Blood". If that
"New Blood " does not make its own gear then that "new
blood" is of the CB type and not the Ham Radio type.

Everybody had to start off with the RAE. That it was passed
with facility by otherwise-unqualified self-taught 14-year-olds
meant that there was never a need to lower the standards to
introduce the Novice (Now Intermediate) exam. That the
Novice was introduced means that there was _DEFINITELY_
no need to introduce the Fools' Licence whereby someone
starting out with no interest at all could have a "licence" after
only a two-day weekend course.

8-year-old children who do not even have the mathematical
background to work out resistances in series and parallel, the
most fundamental technical skill of any Radio Ham, are
getting Fools' Licences, thereby showing that one thing the
Fools' Licence is not, and that is a Ham Radio Licence.

I refuse to QSO with M3/CB Fools' Licensees precisely
because the licence is the thin end of the wedge leading to
non-technical Hams who are forbidden to build their own gear.

I exhort everybody who reads this post to refuse to QSO
with such licensees, not because of any personal issues, but
purely because of the threat that the M3/CB Fools' Licence
presents to Ham Radio if it is allowed to continue.

"Simon Smith" wrote in message
...
Mr Bean
With the greatest respect.
I have no control over the RSGB and their decision to allow "new members"
with an easy foundation test.
Perhaps it was because the hobby was in need of some new Blood.
I was not allowed to sit the advanced test - or the intermediate test. I

had
to start off in exactly the same place as you did - at the very bottom.
I suppose you started off at the very top did you ? You must be

absolutely
brilliant !!
By the way I;m a retired research technologist with a Mathematics and
Chemistry degree - hardly a Mongolian mooron !
Why dont you write to the RSGB - perhaps they could make use of your
services in an advisory capacity.






Harold E. Johnson December 8th 04 11:33 PM


"Simon Smith" wrote in message
...
If I migh say so Mr. Bean - You sound just like the sort of person that

"Ham
Radio" is trying to weed out and be rid of. Your attitude is in the
minority.
With all the modern tranceivers on the market to-day it is not necessary

to
build your own.
If I had been permitted to sit, and pass all three stages of the license

in
one sitting , would that have made me a more responsible person ? I think
not.
You are entitled to your opinion - and I respect it but please - everyone
has to be allowed to start somewhere.


Pay bean no attention, he's not even civilized enough to suicide and put us
all out of his misery. Neither his opinion or any other part of him has
earned any respect. You're right, he's an embarrassment to the fraternity
and we'd be better off without him or his attitude. (And certainly better
off without his commentary.)

W4ZCB



drwxr-xr-x December 9th 04 01:31 AM


Geee-Zuuss! Take this crap to private email!

Airy R. Bean December 9th 04 03:08 PM

And the start is not the end - that of gaining a licence
and going straight on the air.

You start at the beginning and not the end.

Playing around with resistances in series and parallel,
perhaps using low voltage light bulbs is the start.

"Simon Smith" wrote in message
...
You are entitled to your opinion - and I respect it but please - everyone
has to be allowed to start somewhere.




Airy R. Bean December 9th 04 03:12 PM

"Ham Radio" is most certainly not trying to "weed out"
those who seek that technical standards be maintained,
and who encourage others to be technically motivated, for
that is what Ham Radio is all about.

CBers and CBers-Masquerading-As-Radio-Hams might have
that sort of agenda, however.

I append a short article to assist you in disambiguating the two.

"Simon Smith" wrote in message
...
If I migh say so Mr. Bean - You sound just like the sort of person that

"Ham
Radio" is trying to weed out and be rid of. Your attitude is in the
minority.


What is Ham Radio?

Ham Radio is a technical pursuit for those who
are interested in the science of radio wave
propagation and who are also interested in the
way that their radios function. It has a long-standing
tradition of providing a source of engineers who
are born naturals.

Ham Radio awakens in its aficionados a whole-life
fascination with all things technical and gives
an all-abiding curiosity to improve one's scientific
knowledge. It's a great swimming pool, please dive in!

This excitement causes a wish to share the experience
with ones fellow man, and shows itself in the
gentlemanly traditions of Ham Radio.

Radio Hams are qualified to design, build and then
operate their own pieces of equipment. They do this
with gusto, and also repair and modify their own
equipment.

The excitement that drives a Radio Ham starts with
relatively simple technologies at first, perhaps making
his own Wimshurst machine and primary cells. Small pieces
of test equipment follow, possibly multimeters and signal
generators. Then comes receivers and transmitters. It is with
the latter that communication with like-minded technically
motivated people takes off. The scope for technical
development grows with the years
and now encompasses DSP and DDS. There is also a great deal
of excitement in the areas of computer programming to
be learnt and applied.

The technical excitement motivates Radio Hams to compete
with each other to determine who has designed and manufactured
the best-quality station. This competitiveness is found in DXing,
competitions and fox-hunts.

-----OOOOO----

However, beware! A Ham Radio licence is such a
desirable thing to have that there are large
numbers of people who wish to be thought of
as Radio Hams when, in fact, they are nothing
of the kind! Usually such people are a
variation of the CB Radio hobbyist; they buy their
radios off the shelf and send them back to be
repaired; they are not interested in technical discussion
and sneer at those who are; they have no idea how
their radios work inside and have no wish to find out;
they are free with rather silly personal insults;
they have not satisfied any technical qualification
and their licences prevent the use of
self-designed-and-built equipment.

These CB types engage in the competitive activities
with their Cheque-Book-purchased off-the-shelf radios
in a forlorn effort to prove that they are Radio Hams.

No _REAL_ Radio Hams are deceived by such people!





Simon Smith December 9th 04 06:07 PM

Ohh Well... Happy Christmas Mr Bean...
Simon
"Airy R. Bean" wrote in message
...
And the start is not the end - that of gaining a licence
and going straight on the air.

You start at the beginning and not the end.

Playing around with resistances in series and parallel,
perhaps using low voltage light bulbs is the start.

"Simon Smith" wrote in message
...
You are entitled to your opinion - and I respect it but please - everyone
has to be allowed to start somewhere.






Airy R. Bean December 10th 04 02:44 PM

Crapmas you mean, an invention of those of the
mentally ill who find solace in the world of make-believe?

"Simon Smith" wrote in message
...
Ohh Well... Happy Christmas Mr Bean...





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