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Old December 18th 04, 03:38 AM
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For those youngsters among us who were not around,
the antennas for automobile radios were not on top of
automobiles until generally around 1935. Where were
they you ask? They were located along and under the
running boards. Generally with a pair of insulators and
an insulated metal band. Trivia..I was there..W6BWY


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Old December 18th 04, 04:20 AM
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I was thinking in this direction recently..

Specifically, why do modern AM radios totally SUCK?

I used to sit at the drive in and listen to the LA radio stations, from
Honolulu, with the stock radio and antenna that came with the car. Now I'm
lucky if I can hear four AM stations reasonably well, and this has persisted
through three new cars.



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Old December 18th 04, 01:23 PM
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On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 20:38:04 -0700, "Spike"
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For those youngsters among us who were not around,
the antennas for automobile radios were not on top of
automobiles until generally around 1935. Where were
they you ask? They were located along and under the
running boards. Generally with a pair of insulators and
an insulated metal band. Trivia..I was there..W6BWY


Because people aren't willing to pay for a decent AM radio for the
car. They want a CD player and good amps and speakers. The AM part
of the sound system is typically a "one chip" design. The FM tuner
isn't much better either. The old AM radios were horses. They were
multi-tube, multi-conversion designs with selectivity and sensitivity
to spare. It's all there was at the time. Modern cars, in fact all
modern consumer devices are designed to be manufactured as quickly and
as cheaply as possible. When it breaks, throw it away and get a new
one. Besides, it'll be obsolete next week anyway. You will never see
a classic '98 Olds in fifty years, it won't last that long. Of
course, I'm leaving out the whole discussion of "high fidelity" in the
car. Hint: wind noise is the loudest thing in the car at highway
speeds.

Russ
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Old December 18th 04, 03:27 PM
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Russ wrote:
Because people aren't willing to pay for a decent AM radio for the
car.


How about a decent AM antenna with an IC-706?
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Old December 20th 04, 06:03 PM
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On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 09:27:44 -0600, Cecil Moore
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Russ wrote:
Because people aren't willing to pay for a decent AM radio for the
car.


How about a decent AM antenna with an IC-706?



Reminds about the leg pull some years ago on 80m when an Old Timer
wanted a better antenna for SSB reception.

We suggested he cut off one leg of his dipole so that he could rejecte
the unwanted USB a little better ... he may have fallen for it, who
knows!

Peter, G3PHO


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Old December 20th 04, 09:44 PM
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Peter wrote:
Cecil Moore wrote:
How about a decent AM antenna with an IC-706?


Reminds about the leg pull ...


No leg pull intended. My IC-706 and ClearSpeech speaker work
unbelievably well on AM talk radio which is what I listen to
on AM. My home town has extremely noisy power lines. The
ClearSpeech speaker takes that all out.
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No leg pull intended. My IC-706 and ClearSpeech speaker work
unbelievably well on AM talk radio which is what I listen to
on AM. My home town has extremely noisy power lines. The
ClearSpeech speaker takes that all out........................

I like the MW on the 706mk2g. Has good audio, and is just the right
width for "general use". It's fairly wide stock, which is good for MW.
Sounds a lot better than the ham rig with only tight 4.8kc AM
filtering,
using the stock SSB filter. Using the 44 inch per side loop I have in
here, it works great. But it also works good on MW mobile just using my

ham antenna tuned to a lower band...Doesn't have to really be tuned to
resonance..Plenty of signal with the antenna set for 80m. But my trucks
also have radios...The ac-delco I have in one truck is real good, but
I've never really tested the other "whatever brand" with the tape deck,

etc. Actually, offhand, I don't think it's that good, but it might be
the antenna , or the trimmer in the radio being off. If I listen to MW
in the house, it's almost always on the 706 these days. MK

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meal. Or you could just as well use veal -
after all, you have to be careful - Sicilians are touchy about their young
family members...

6 newborn or veal cutlets
Tomato gravy (see index)
4 cups mozzarella, 1cup parmesan, 1cup romano
Seasoned bread crumbs mixed with
parmesan
romano
salt
pepper
oregano
garlic powder
chopped parsley
Flour
eggwash (eggs and milk)
Peanut oil for frying.

Pound the cutlets.
Dredge in flour, eggs, then the bread crumb mixture.
Fry till golden brown in 350° peanut oil.
In a baking pan, place a layer of gravy,
then one of meat, gravy, and cheese.
Another layer each of meat, gravy, and cheese.
Then bake at 350° for 45 minutes.
Serve on hot pasta with romano cheese.



Southern Fried Small-fry

Tastes like fried chicken, which works just as well.
In fact you may want to practice cutting up whole chickens
for frying before you go for the real thing.
Whole chicken is much more efficient and inexpensive than buying pieces.

1 tiny human, cut into pieces
2 cups flour
Onion, garlic
Salt
pepper
garlic powder
cayenne pepper
hot sauce, etc.
Oil for frying

Mix milk, eggs, hot sauce in a bowl, add chopped onion and garlic.
Season the meat liberally, and marinate for several hours.
Place seasoned flour in a paper or plastic shopping bag,
drop pieces in a few a time, shake to coat thoroughly,
then deep fry in hot oil (350°) for about 15 minutes.
Drain and place on paper towels.



Miscarriage with Mustard Greens

Why waste it? Otherwise, and in general, use ham or salt pork to season greens.
The technique of smothering greens can be used with many vegetables;
green beans work especially well. Meat is not necessary every day, don?t
be afraid to alter any dish to vegetarian tastes.

1 premature baby, born dead
Large bunch of mustard greens
2 white onions, 1 cup chopped celery
Vegetable oil (or hog fat)
Salt, pepper, garlic, etc.

Lightly brown onions


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Old December 18th 04, 02:58 PM
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On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 20:38:04 -0700, "Spike"
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For those youngsters among us who were not around,
the antennas for automobile radios were not on top of
automobiles until generally around 1935. Where were
they you ask? They were located along and under the
running boards. Generally with a pair of insulators and
an insulated metal band. Trivia..I was there..W6BWY


Yep, I had a '38 Chevy with that setup and the whole thing was covered
with dirt and grime.

Danny, K6MHE

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Old December 18th 04, 05:11 PM
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For those interested, AM radios can still be top notch. I have a 98 Honda
CRV. I bought this car because it suited where I lived. The AM radio was a
shock. It pulls stations in just fine from hundreds of miles away in the
daytime. I live in North central North Dakota. I can easily listen to French
stations from Quebec. When you push the search button it simply goes to the
next 10 khz spot and there will be a station there. My guess is that whoever
designed this radio used the latest technology to make a very fine receiver.
My Icom 718 with a 60 foot random wire does not work any better for
reception.

The down side of this radio is that during the night, many stations are
competing with each other on the same frequency.


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For those youngsters among us who were not around,
the antennas for automobile radios were not on top of
automobiles until generally around 1935. Where were
they you ask? They were located along and under the
running boards. Generally with a pair of insulators and
an insulated metal band. Trivia..I was there..W6BWY





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