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Richard Harrison wrote:
I wrote: "As energy can`t be destroyed it had to be reflected by a hard short or open." Keith replied: "Or just stopped and stored." Wave energy is energy in motion. No motion, no waves. There is no doubt that energy moves. The point of disagreement is on how far it moves. Keith wrote: "I would strongly suggest that no energy crosses these points in the line where the voltage and current are always zero since p(t) is always zero." See my comment above on power as a function of time. Keith erred in saying "points in the line where the voltage and current are always zero", as where SWR volts are zero, amps are max, and vice versa. This last is true, but p(t) = v(t) * i(t); volts and amps must be present simultaneously for there to be power. I wrote: "If energy were turned around before it reached the end of the line, nulls more distant from the source than the turnaround point would not exist." Keith wrote: "Not so,---." There is no argument that can make wave interference where there are no waves. In a lossless line, pre-existing waves could circulate forever. But, our discussion relates to effects on actual lines. There are many assumptions in this discussion which means it only applies to ideal lines. The extension to real lines, retains the fundamentals but the details need tuning. As a simple example, on a real line, the nulls are never 0. But including this in the discussion would just make it more difficult to locate the points of disagreement. Keith wrote: "Try visualizing how a step function charges the line." Totally irrelevant. Understanding a step will help with understanding line behaviour. This knowledge can then assist in understanding sinusoidal steady state. ....Keith |
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