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G. Doughty October 1st 03 12:17 AM

element 1
 
Is this test open game? Basically, are all characters, q-codes, and prosigns
fair game on this test. I have studied relentlessly and know a majority of
them and can receive at 10wpm but everytime I look at a different book or
website I find more stuff.

Thanks for the input

73
G. Doughty
KI4BBL

Richard Clark October 1st 03 12:41 AM

On 30 Sep 2003 23:17:41 GMT, ojunk (G. Doughty)
wrote:

Is this test open game? Basically, are all characters, q-codes, and prosigns
fair game on this test. I have studied relentlessly and know a majority of
them and can receive at 10wpm but everytime I look at a different book or
website I find more stuff.

Thanks for the input

73
G. Doughty
KI4BBL


Hi OM,

The answer is found by taking only questions from the question pool.
In your case, the questions would be a CW pool (there are only so many
tapes to do the job, unless it is computerized now - in that regard it
becomes a matter of a QSO content pool). Unless your opportunity for
testing is only occasional, re-testing will motivate and get you
through the process as quickly as any other. After all, there is the
clean copy part (if that hasn't changed) where you may never hear
anything but straight text.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Dave Shrader October 1st 03 01:46 AM

47 CFR97.503

The alphabet, the numerals, the period, the comma, the fraction bar, the
question mark; and the prosigns: AR, SK and BT.

If you can handle these at 10 wpm you are home free!!!! Go upgrade at
next session.

Deacon Dave, W1MCE
Registered Instructor, ARRL
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G. Doughty wrote:

Is this test open game? Basically, are all characters, q-codes, and prosigns
fair game on this test. I have studied relentlessly and know a majority of
them and can receive at 10wpm but everytime I look at a different book or
website I find more stuff.

Thanks for the input

73
G. Doughty
KI4BBL



'Doc October 1st 03 02:22 AM



G.,
It also helps if you know the TTY characters, Baudot
code, and the 'Star Spangled Banner'... but not much.
'Doc

Tom Sedlack October 1st 03 06:25 PM

I took my test back in July and here's my advice to you;

All alpha characters will be in the test. Most if not all numerals will be
in the test. Prosigns are there but are not required to pass the test.
Q-codes are there but, of course, they are already covered with the "all
alpha characters" mentioned previously.

The test itself consisted a simple QSO starting with a series of V's. They
don't count but copy them anyway. It will put you into the right frame of
mind.

VVV VVV KL1J DE K2UGO/4 TKS FR YR CALL VINCE. = UR RST 548 THE WX SUNNY RIG
IS COLLINS KWM380 AT 476 WATTS, QTH IS BIRMINGHAM ALABAMA. NAME ZOLA = ANT
IS MONOBANDER UP 29 FEET. HW COPY? KL1J DE K2UGO + *

You will be asked the following questions (typically)

What is the receiving station call sign?
What is the transmitting station call?
What is the receiving operators name?
What was the signal report?
What is the weather?
What equipment is used by the transmitting station?
What was the transmitting station RF power in watts?
What city is the transmitting station in?
What is the transmitting operators name?
What antenna was used by the transmitting station?
What is the antenna height?

It helps to be familiar with different antenna types and rig manufacturer
names. When you hear RST being sent, pay close attention to the report. When
you hear RIG or RADIO (whatever), pay close attention to what it is and the
power level. Once you hear QTH, pay close attention to where the operator
lives. You will be sent both calls twice - one at the beginning, again at
the end. The slash will be in the QSO and you should know it. Everyone I
talked to said it was part of one of the calls (as above). Sometimes the
calls don't follow conventional formats. Don't worry about it! Don't worry
about punctuation or prosigns.

Try and copy as much as you can. If you have problems answering the
questions, the VE will then look for 25 (?) consecutive characters copied
correctly (numbers count for 2).

Good Luck!

Tom - AC9TS


You would need to know
"G. Doughty" wrote in message
...
Is this test open game? Basically, are all characters, q-codes, and

prosigns
fair game on this test. I have studied relentlessly and know a majority

of
them and can receive at 10wpm but everytime I look at a different book or
website I find more stuff.

Thanks for the input

73
G. Doughty
KI4BBL




Dee D. Flint October 1st 03 10:22 PM


"G. Doughty" wrote in message
...
Is this test open game? Basically, are all characters, q-codes, and

prosigns
fair game on this test. I have studied relentlessly and know a majority

of
them and can receive at 10wpm but everytime I look at a different book or
website I find more stuff.

Thanks for the input

73
G. Doughty
KI4BBL


It is the letters of the alphabet, numerals, period, comma, question mark,
/, and the following prosigns: BT (written as =), K, KN, and AR. The test
is sent in the form of a simulated QSO (conversation or contact) between two
stations. It runs for 5 minutes and you copy as much as you can. Then you
will either need to answer 7 out of 10 questions correctly on the content of
the QSO or have 1 minute of solid copy (i.e. no errors) to pass. At 5wpm,
one minute is 25 characters, however the numerals, punctuation and prosigns
count as if they were two characters due to their length.

The Q-codes are composed of individual letters so there is no problem there.
Even so, probably the only ones that will occur is QTH (location), QSO
(conversation or contact), and QSL (acknowledge receipt of transmission).

As far as Q-codes (and abbreviations) copy exactly what you hear not what
you think they might be sending and you should be all right.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


dwayne October 1st 03 10:56 PM

YES!!
each letter , prosign , and number is possible . including puncuation

"G. Doughty" wrote in message
...
Is this test open game? Basically, are all characters, q-codes, and

prosigns
fair game on this test. I have studied relentlessly and know a majority

of
them and can receive at 10wpm but everytime I look at a different book or
website I find more stuff.

Thanks for the input

73
G. Doughty
KI4BBL




Lushy October 1st 03 11:29 PM

Then toss it all out and use phone for the rest of your Ham days
Lushy
"dwayne" wrote in message
ink.net...
YES!!
each letter , prosign , and number is possible . including puncuation

"G. Doughty" wrote in message
...
Is this test open game? Basically, are all characters, q-codes, and

prosigns
fair game on this test. I have studied relentlessly and know a majority

of
them and can receive at 10wpm but everytime I look at a different book

or
website I find more stuff.

Thanks for the input

73
G. Doughty
KI4BBL






G. Doughty October 2nd 03 12:05 AM

Here is the catch . . . I don't want to use phone. I was very apprehensive at
first about cw but now that I have been doing it, I can't wait to use it. I
didn't study in college to not use it and I am not wasting my time now studying
for element one. I just can't wait for my daughter to be old enough to use cw.
LOL

Thanks for all the help folks, I am much more comfortable now!!
73
G. Doughty
KI4BBL

Dee D. Flint October 2nd 03 12:09 AM


"dwayne" wrote in message
ink.net...
YES!!
each letter , prosign , and number is possible . including puncuation


Incorrect. There are many prosigns, such as AS, that will NOT be on the
test. There are many of the punctuation marks, such as apostrophe, quotes,
and parenthesis, that will not be on the test.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


"G. Doughty" wrote in message
...
Is this test open game? Basically, are all characters, q-codes, and

prosigns
fair game on this test. I have studied relentlessly and know a majority

of
them and can receive at 10wpm but everytime I look at a different book

or
website I find more stuff.

Thanks for the input

73
G. Doughty
KI4BBL






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