G3SEK wrote:


But first we all need to agree that for an ideal lumped loading coil,
the current at the top and bottom terminals will be the same. If the
current is not the same at both ends, then the coil cannot be behaving
as an ideal lumped inductor.


We are back to this line of "reasoning":
......and if we rip all four legs off the frog and say "Frog jump", frog doesn't
jump. The "conclusion" is - Froggie is deaf :-)

Is it a big science secret that coils can cause delay, phase shift?
Can anyone also measure the fricken thing and THEN argue????

We have the effect, W9UCW measured it, ON4UN and W5DXP provided explanations,
what's missing? Being wrong, recognizing it and admitting? (Sorry)
Just because software (for now?) cannot digest it, it can't be?
This is becoming amusing to see how serious this misconception was out there
and who is on the bandwagon.
Let's see "better" explanation. The difference is THERE doesn't matter how
anyone denies it!!!
Knowing about it will help to design and optimize the crippled antennas,
including fricken fracktals (with coils).

I am gathering material for test setup allowing to measure RF current in every
foot of the loaded antenna, I have two 8 amp meters, so I will have to use some
power for full deflection, but it will be just another level of the same thing.
You are all invited to witness! I will document it, take pictures and video.

If there are no answers, pointing wrong to the points I have raised in my other
posting, then I am done, can't do anything more, just will do the measurements
and present the results.

Yuri, K3BU.us