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On Fri, 13 May 2005 21:36:32 -0400, "Jack Painter"
wrote:

Way back when this thread was living, Ed apologized if anyone
misunderstood
his tongue in cheek comments. If this was a group that was limited to
PhD's
of EE who had all been Chief Broadcast Engineers at major facilities, then
the members could all pretend to be equal (which of course they still
wouldn't be). But this newsgroup is not that, and neither does its name
imply the lowest level of competence in the field. If you have such a
problem with standards, perhaps your moniker Flannery O'Conner has not
been
a good teacher, as you have missed one of the defining marks of a man; to
have high standards. Without them, whatever happens is fine, and a wicked
place that will be, besides the dumbing down that results from whining
about
achievement being more highly valued than mere existence.

I suspect the poster's objection was not to high standards per
se, so much as to the stuffy, "I hold hams to ...." part of he
pronouncement. A simple suggestion that best practices tend toward ...
or the like would be more accepable than using a tone suggesting that
someone was lecturing others with an authority not recognized.


Well, I already apologized for sounding stuffy, but I can do it again. I'll
probably commit that offense again some time, so I better keep my
apologizing muscle well toned. It's sad when a hobby committed to
communication holds precision of expression to be stuffy. And anyone who can
drop the Latin "per se" correctly into a sentence is wise enough to not
misunderstand my usage of "hold."

So I guess I should have dumbed-down my assertion, perhaps saying that I
reckon a ham ought to be a whole bunch more smarter about RF noise than your
average hamster. And, as the OP claimed a lot of years experience, shouldn't
I expect that he learned even more along the way? Is that too much to
expect?

Maybe you hit the real crux of my effront when you say I "was lecturing
others with an authority not recognized." So, by putting some slang and
twang into my prose, can I slip under the definition of a lecture? And as to
my authority, I never drag out the certificates or flash my badge. I try to
speak as plainly as I can, and hope the content has the ring of truth. I
expect those I post to will be able to recognize my thoughts, judge them
accordingly, and realize that I'm the smartest snot they ever met. (g
explicitely added for the humor-impared) I'd never presume to advise on
things like phase-locked loops or digital modulation, of which my knowledge
is woefully deficient. OK, just this once; I've been doing RF noise
(reduction, prevention and creation) for about 37 years. Go ahead, qrz me
and you'll see I'm an old fart. And I always sign my comments, Mister (oh, I
guess you don't do that).

--
Ed
WB6WSN
El Cajon, CA USA

I just hate it when they turn out to be nice guys and apologize (whether or
not they have anything to apologize for).... then ya gotta be nice to
'em!grin

Warmest regards,
John
--
If "God"--expecting an angel... if evolution--expecting an alien... just
wondering if I will be able to tell the difference!

"Ed Price" wrote in message
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| wrote in message
| ...
| On Fri, 13 May 2005 21:36:32 -0400, "Jack Painter"
| wrote:
|
| Way back when this thread was living, Ed apologized if anyone
| misunderstood
| his tongue in cheek comments. If this was a group that was limited to
| PhD's
| of EE who had all been Chief Broadcast Engineers at major facilities,
then
| the members could all pretend to be equal (which of course they still
| wouldn't be). But this newsgroup is not that, and neither does its name
| imply the lowest level of competence in the field. If you have such a
| problem with standards, perhaps your moniker Flannery O'Conner has not
| been
| a good teacher, as you have missed one of the defining marks of a man;
to
| have high standards. Without them, whatever happens is fine, and a
wicked
| place that will be, besides the dumbing down that results from whining
| about
| achievement being more highly valued than mere existence.
|
| I suspect the poster's objection was not to high standards per
| se, so much as to the stuffy, "I hold hams to ...." part of he
| pronouncement. A simple suggestion that best practices tend toward ...
| or the like would be more accepable than using a tone suggesting that
| someone was lecturing others with an authority not recognized.
|
|
| Well, I already apologized for sounding stuffy, but I can do it again.
I'll
| probably commit that offense again some time, so I better keep my
| apologizing muscle well toned. It's sad when a hobby committed to
| communication holds precision of expression to be stuffy. And anyone who
can
| drop the Latin "per se" correctly into a sentence is wise enough to not
| misunderstand my usage of "hold."
|
| So I guess I should have dumbed-down my assertion, perhaps saying that I
| reckon a ham ought to be a whole bunch more smarter about RF noise than
your
| average hamster. And, as the OP claimed a lot of years experience,
shouldn't
| I expect that he learned even more along the way? Is that too much to
| expect?
|
| Maybe you hit the real crux of my effront when you say I "was lecturing
| others with an authority not recognized." So, by putting some slang and
| twang into my prose, can I slip under the definition of a lecture? And as
to
| my authority, I never drag out the certificates or flash my badge. I try
to
| speak as plainly as I can, and hope the content has the ring of truth. I
| expect those I post to will be able to recognize my thoughts, judge them
| accordingly, and realize that I'm the smartest snot they ever met. (g
| explicitely added for the humor-impared) I'd never presume to advise on
| things like phase-locked loops or digital modulation, of which my
knowledge
| is woefully deficient. OK, just this once; I've been doing RF noise
| (reduction, prevention and creation) for about 37 years. Go ahead, qrz me
| and you'll see I'm an old fart. And I always sign my comments, Mister (oh,
I
| guess you don't do that).
|
| --
| Ed
| WB6WSN
| El Cajon, CA USA
|
|