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Dave Shrader November 2nd 03 07:34 PM

MFJ or Autek
 
I have only used the MFJ 259B. It meets all my needs.

Capabilities as listed in manual:

VSWR, coaxloss, capacitance, inductance, impedance [magnitude], return
loss, reflection coefficient, distance to fault, resonance mode,
percentage of transmitted power, test of stubs, velocity factor, Zo of
transmission lines, beverage antennas, adjust tuners, adjust matching
networks, test rf transformers, test baluns, test rf chokes.

Deacon Dave, W1MCE


Arrow146 November 3rd 03 02:55 PM

I only have experience with the MFJ, I have an older 259. Very happy with
it, so much so that at some point I'd like to "upgrade" to the 269.


Not sure the 269 is much of an upgrade. I have had two,
first one I sent back because the UHF part did not work
right. The second was exactly the same. I know of others
that had the same problem.

The older 259 had problems with the selector switch.

The 259B fixed that problem. I like the 259B, works
just fine.

The Autek is ok, a little harder to use, I think.
Needs a new battery every time I go to use it.
The switches takes a little getting use to.

73 Al Lowe N0IMW

N4IXT November 4th 03 10:42 PM


"Arrow146" wrote in message
...
Not sure the 269 is much of an upgrade. I have had two,
first one I sent back because the UHF part did not work
right. The second was exactly the same. I know of others
that had the same problem.


Bummer. I wanted it to add 440 to my tuning abilities. sigh Well, maybe by
the time I can afford one they'll get the bugs worked out.

The older 259 had problems with the selector switch.


Bingo! I've been having said problems, on some bands I have to hold the
switch just right in order to get it to work. Is there a simple fix, other
than to send it back to the factory?

The 259B fixed that problem. I like the 259B, works
just fine.


That's good to hear.

The Autek is ok, a little harder to use, I think.
Needs a new battery every time I go to use it.
The switches takes a little getting use to.


Not familiar with the Auteks, may have to look at them.

73's

de Robert / N4IXT



Steve November 6th 03 04:07 PM


"Tarmo Tammaru" wrote in message
...
Jacques,

You might want to do what I did, which is to download both the MFJ and

Autok
instruction manuals. I ended up getting the 269. Compare the specs, but as

I
recall, the MFJ has a wider impedance range, and if you want to cover VHF,
you have to buy two Auteks.

I have had no problems with the 269. That includes using it on 432 MHz.

There is also a Japanese one, which looks more professional than either of
the others, but it only measures up to 300 Ohms.


Might be the Kuranishi ?








Dave Shrader November 6th 03 06:42 PM

Regarding the sign of reactance.

The MFJ does NOT display the sign. But, I don't find this to be a
problem because decreasing reactance with increasing frequency is
CAPACITIVE and increasing reactance with increasing frequency is
INDUCTIVE. So, a minor variation in frequency tells me the type of
reactance.

Deacon Dave.


JGBOYLES November 6th 03 11:40 PM


The MFJ does NOT display the sign. But, I don't find this to be a
problem because decreasing reactance with increasing frequency is
CAPACITIVE and increasing reactance with increasing frequency is
INDUCTIVE.


Hi Dave, The MFJ-259B manual states this is "usually" the case, and that is
what I always do. Usually and always are not exactly the same. I do seem to
remember this discussed a few years back, and someone provided evidence this
was not always the case. They quoted Smith Chart proof. For the life of me I
can't find the thread, and haven't had time to play with the chart to confirm.
This method always (so it seems) works for me, but there are always exceptions.

73 Gary N4AST

Dave Shrader November 7th 03 12:12 AM

Jim, the reactance at the antenna can be any value. The reactance at the
input to the transmission line, with VSWR, can be any OTHER value.

The point is ... at the measurement point, where ever that is, at the
antenna or at the transmission line, a determination of either Inductive
or Capacitive reactance can be measured with the MFJ 259B.

Deacon Dave, W1MCE
+ + +

JGBOYLES wrote:

SNIP

I do seem to
remember this discussed a few years back, and someone provided evidence this
was not always the case. They quoted Smith Chart proof.


SNIP

, but there are always exceptions.

73 Gary N4AST



JGBOYLES November 7th 03 12:36 AM

The point is ... at the measurement point, where ever that is, at the
antenna or at the transmission line, a determination of either Inductive
or Capacitive reactance can be measured with the MFJ 259B.


I agree Dave, I just wish I could find that thread, or knew why MFJ said
"Usually".
73 Gary N4AST

Cecil Moore November 7th 03 03:29 AM

JGBOYLES wrote:
The MFJ does NOT display the sign. But, I don't find this to be a
problem because decreasing reactance with increasing frequency is
CAPACITIVE and increasing reactance with increasing frequency is
INDUCTIVE.


Hi Dave, The MFJ-259B manual states this is "usually" the case, and that is
what I always do. Usually and always are not exactly the same. I do seem to
remember this discussed a few years back, and someone provided evidence this
was not always the case. They quoted Smith Chart proof. For the life of me I
can't find the thread, and haven't had time to play with the chart to confirm.
This method always (so it seems) works for me, but there are always exceptions.


For instance, a G5RV's feedpoint reactance is +j160 at 9.17 MHz and
+j98 at 9.18 MHz, i.e. decreasing reactance with increasing frequency.
As the anti-resonant point is approached, the resistance increases but
the reactance decreases with increasing frequency.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp



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J. McLaughlin November 9th 03 04:10 PM

Dear Jacques:
I think that best, portable, self contained analyzer that is
presently available is the "CIA-HF" from Tempo.
http://www.aea-wireless.com/cia.htm

The same company has other (more new) models that might be more suitable
for your tasks. I find it is far more easy to measure with the CIA-HF.
(I love my old GR bridge, but it is quite a task to use.)
73 Mac N8TT

--
J. Mc Laughlin - Michigan USA

Hi there,

I want to buy an antenna analyser HF and/or VHF. Could be MFJ or

Autek. But
I don't have experience with theses equipments. Following you what

could be
the best one ?

73 de ON5MJ - Jacques.





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