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Dave May 1st 05 09:09 PM

Newbie Ques.
 
What cheap house hold stuff could I use to build an FM broadcast antenna.


Dave





John Smith May 1st 05 09:32 PM

any copper wire, copper tubing, stainless steel welding wire, metal
electrical conduit, bailing wire, copper pipe, aluminum tubing, a TV mast, a
wire fence, a metal gutter drain/gutter, a window screen, a vehicle (look at
the rubber tires as "insulators", an existing TV antenna, a metal hand rail,
etc....

The above are NOT in order of preference...
I joke a bit here, but you get the gist of it... grin

Warmest regards,
John
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Dave May 1st 05 10:58 PM

How long or Big should I cut the wire or pipe to make a decent one? And what
should it look like?

Square, Triangle in orintation?

Something like this but Horizontal?

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Or how should it be designed as "for distance" for a "whole house FM
transmitter" to get it as far as I can?


Dave



"John Smith" wrote in message
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| any copper wire, copper tubing, stainless steel welding wire, metal
| electrical conduit, bailing wire, copper pipe, aluminum tubing, a TV mast,
a
| wire fence, a metal gutter drain/gutter, a window screen, a vehicle (look
at
| the rubber tires as "insulators", an existing TV antenna, a metal hand
rail,
| etc....
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| The above are NOT in order of preference...
| I joke a bit here, but you get the gist of it... grin
|
| Warmest regards,
| John
| "Dave" wrote in message
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| | What cheap house hold stuff could I use to build an FM broadcast
antenna.
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Dave May 1st 05 11:05 PM

you missed coat hangers!

"John Smith" wrote in message
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any copper wire, copper tubing, stainless steel welding wire, metal
electrical conduit, bailing wire, copper pipe, aluminum tubing, a TV mast,

a
wire fence, a metal gutter drain/gutter, a window screen, a vehicle (look

at
the rubber tires as "insulators", an existing TV antenna, a metal hand

rail,
etc....

The above are NOT in order of preference...
I joke a bit here, but you get the gist of it... grin

Warmest regards,
John
"Dave" wrote in message
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| What cheap house hold stuff could I use to build an FM broadcast

antenna.
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| Dave
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John Smith May 2nd 05 12:21 AM

That is a 1/4 wave antenna you have us looking at, a ground plane with
drooping radials--right?

If you are just going to use it in a house, why not do a folded dipole out
of 300 twin lead--with matching circuit, or j-pole?

But, I am assuming (I know that's bad) it is low power and short distance,
OR, are you going to try to cover your city? State?

Warmest regards,
John
"Dave" wrote in message
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| How long or Big should I cut the wire or pipe to make a decent one? And
what
| should it look like?
|
| Square, Triangle in orintation?
|
| Something like this but Horizontal?
|
| |
| |
| o
| / \
| / \
|
| Or how should it be designed as "for distance" for a "whole house FM
| transmitter" to get it as far as I can?
|
|
| Dave
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| "John Smith" wrote in message
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|| any copper wire, copper tubing, stainless steel welding wire, metal
|| electrical conduit, bailing wire, copper pipe, aluminum tubing, a TV
mast,
| a
|| wire fence, a metal gutter drain/gutter, a window screen, a vehicle (look
| at
|| the rubber tires as "insulators", an existing TV antenna, a metal hand
| rail,
|| etc....
||
|| The above are NOT in order of preference...
|| I joke a bit here, but you get the gist of it... grin
||
|| Warmest regards,
|| John
|| "Dave" wrote in message
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|| | What cheap house hold stuff could I use to build an FM broadcast
| antenna.
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John Smith May 2nd 05 12:22 AM

LOL!!!! Yep, and I have used 'em too!!!

Warmest regards,
John

"Dave" wrote in message
...
| you missed coat hangers!
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| "John Smith" wrote in message
| ...
| any copper wire, copper tubing, stainless steel welding wire, metal
| electrical conduit, bailing wire, copper pipe, aluminum tubing, a TV
mast,
| a
| wire fence, a metal gutter drain/gutter, a window screen, a vehicle
(look
| at
| the rubber tires as "insulators", an existing TV antenna, a metal hand
| rail,
| etc....
|
| The above are NOT in order of preference...
| I joke a bit here, but you get the gist of it... grin
|
| Warmest regards,
| John
| "Dave" wrote in message
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| | What cheap house hold stuff could I use to build an FM broadcast
| antenna.
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| | Dave
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Bob Miller May 2nd 05 01:56 AM

On Sun, 01 May 2005 20:09:09 GMT, "Dave" wrote:

What cheap house hold stuff could I use to build an FM broadcast antenna.


Dave




Radio Shack sells a wire folded dipole for FM for less than 5 dollars.
You might also need an adaptor to convert the 300-ohm line to coax for
your transmitter.

Tack your dipole to a wall or board, and you're ready to
transmit...legally, I presume.

bob
k5qwg




Dave May 2nd 05 02:35 AM

Legally of course!
We received the "Whole House Transmitter" (
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tegory=73 836
) it's ok for about 50ft 'cuz of the obstructions.
She likes it and now.. she wants me to transmit to the community pool so she
can hear "her tunes" (about 2/3's of a mile away).
I also have a small, 1 watt signal power booster(?) kit on order to boost
the signal and would like to design an antenna w/o too much height or too
noticable for this gizmo (deed restrictions!)

Dave



"Bob Miller" wrote in message
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| On Sun, 01 May 2005 20:09:09 GMT, "Dave" wrote:
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| What cheap house hold stuff could I use to build an FM broadcast antenna.
|
|
| Dave
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| Radio Shack sells a wire folded dipole for FM for less than 5 dollars.
| You might also need an adaptor to convert the 300-ohm line to coax for
| your transmitter.
|
| Tack your dipole to a wall or board, and you're ready to
| transmit...legally, I presume.
|
| bob
| k5qwg
|
|
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Bob Miller May 2nd 05 02:42 AM

On Mon, 02 May 2005 01:35:02 GMT, "Dave" wrote:

Legally of course!
We received the "Whole House Transmitter" (
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tegory=73 836
) it's ok for about 50ft 'cuz of the obstructions.
She likes it and now.. she wants me to transmit to the community pool so she
can hear "her tunes" (about 2/3's of a mile away).
I also have a small, 1 watt signal power booster(?) kit on order to boost
the signal and would like to design an antenna w/o too much height or too
noticable for this gizmo (deed restrictions!)

Dave


Hmm, maybe Radio Shack's FM beam antenna -- about $20 I believe. If
it's small enough to fit your attic, that would get by the deed
restrictions.

bob
k5qwg





"Bob Miller" wrote in message
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| On Sun, 01 May 2005 20:09:09 GMT, "Dave" wrote:
|
| What cheap house hold stuff could I use to build an FM broadcast antenna.
|
|
| Dave
|
|
|
|
| Radio Shack sells a wire folded dipole for FM for less than 5 dollars.
| You might also need an adaptor to convert the 300-ohm line to coax for
| your transmitter.
|
| Tack your dipole to a wall or board, and you're ready to
| transmit...legally, I presume.
|
| bob
| k5qwg
|
|
|



John Smith May 2nd 05 02:54 AM

Dave:

Your question, while at first seeming simple to me, I now realize is much
more complex.
I looked at the ebay URL, and one "feature" of the device in question is:
Q. Is there an Antenna?
A. Yes, The Antenna is about 30" long made of thin flexible black wire

I would have NO clue on how to match up any antenna and transmission line to
that!!!

Roy or another of the REAL antenna authorities are your best hope now...
sorry... I am learning...

Warmest regards,
John

"Dave" wrote in message
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| Legally of course!
| We received the "Whole House Transmitter" (
|
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tegory=73 836
| ) it's ok for about 50ft 'cuz of the obstructions.
| She likes it and now.. she wants me to transmit to the community pool so
she
| can hear "her tunes" (about 2/3's of a mile away).
| I also have a small, 1 watt signal power booster(?) kit on order to boost
| the signal and would like to design an antenna w/o too much height or too
| noticable for this gizmo (deed restrictions!)
|
| Dave
|
|
|
| "Bob Miller" wrote in message
| ...
|| On Sun, 01 May 2005 20:09:09 GMT, "Dave" wrote:
||
|| What cheap house hold stuff could I use to build an FM broadcast
antenna.
||
||
|| Dave
||
||
||
||
|| Radio Shack sells a wire folded dipole for FM for less than 5 dollars.
|| You might also need an adaptor to convert the 300-ohm line to coax for
|| your transmitter.
||
|| Tack your dipole to a wall or board, and you're ready to
|| transmit...legally, I presume.
||
|| bob
|| k5qwg
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