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Old May 13th 05, 07:23 AM
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DaveC wrote:
DirectTV 20" dish, offset fed, f/d~0.7, to be used for 2.4 GHz wlan link.

As I understand the issues, the best feed is one that -- for a given focal
length -- will "light" the dish with as spherical a wave as possible, that
has a broad enough dispersion angle to fully "paint" the dish without picking
up off-the-edge noise.

I've looked at all types of feeds, from cantennas to bi-quads to patch to
dual-dipole. All have their pros and cons.

I'd like to hear from anyone who has done this before about what feed they
chose and why.

Thanks,

Biquad , simple , safe ,cheap and you can build it with a minimm of tools.
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In alt.internet.wireless DaveC wrote:
DirectTV 20" dish, offset fed, f/d~0.7, to be used for 2.4 GHz wlan link.


I've looked at all types of feeds, from cantennas to bi-quads to patch to
dual-dipole. All have their pros and cons.


The Trevor Marshall BiQuad is the most referenced feed for a dish.
http://martybugs.net/wireless/biquad/ refers to Trevor's site, and has
better instructions and pictures.

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Old May 13th 05, 06:53 PM
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On Thu, 12 May 2005 22:28:26 -0700, DaveC wrote:

DirectTV 20" dish, offset fed, f/d~0.7, to be used for 2.4 GHz wlan link.


Offset feed dishes have different f/D ratios depending on
polarization. I just did a quicky measurement of an RCA (Thomson)
dish which yields 0.67. Close enough.
http://www.qsl.net/n1bwt/app-5a.pdf

As I understand the issues, the best feed is one that -- for a given focal
length -- will "light" the dish with as spherical a wave as possible, that
has a broad enough dispersion angle to fully "paint" the dish without picking
up off-the-edge noise.


Exactly. See:
http://www.qsl.net/n1bwt/contents.htm
for how it works. Be sure to read chaper 6 on feeds.

I've looked at all types of feeds, from cantennas to bi-quads to patch to
dual-dipole. All have their pros and cons.


Biquad should work.
http://www.trevormarshall.com/biquad.htm
http://martybugs.net/wireless/biquad/
-3dB beamwidth of the biquad is about 60 degrees. Using a protractor
to eyeball my pizza dish, it wants a 70 degree angle. Close enough.

I'd like to hear from anyone who has done this before about what feed they
chose and why.


See:
http://www.weijand.nl/wifi/
Have fun aiming the dish.


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Old May 20th 05, 11:20 PM
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Dave

Have you considered using a USB wireless adapter as the feed so the line
loss might be lower?
I have built some illuminators for the off set feed satellite TV dish
using a USB wireles adapter. But, I dont yet have any definitive results.

Jerry



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DirectTV 20" dish, offset fed, f/d~0.7, to be used for 2.4 GHz wlan link.

As I understand the issues, the best feed is one that -- for a given focal
length -- will "light" the dish with as spherical a wave as possible, that
has a broad enough dispersion angle to fully "paint" the dish without
picking
up off-the-edge noise.

I've looked at all types of feeds, from cantennas to bi-quads to patch to
dual-dipole. All have their pros and cons.

I'd like to hear from anyone who has done this before about what feed they
chose and why.

Thanks,
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ask a question here if I hadn't done that already.

DaveC

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