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ml May 14th 05 06:21 PM

solder vs clamps
 
my dipole (center) has the usual wire thru a eye bolt and wrapped around
itself like the arrl manual typically shows

my ladder line transitions to the wire itself and is also wrapped around

questions:

rather than soldering it, (thought it might be stiff and break??) i
used proper sized wire clamps(w/teeth) [two of them , torqued proper]

wonder if a good compression fit is ok, or if eventually corrosion will
make for a poor connection?

it's still new enough i could clen it and solder it


any thoughts? perhaps it's just trivial but i wonder hate to throw off
harmonics

Cecil Moore May 14th 05 07:24 PM

ml wrote:
wonder if a good compression fit is ok, or if eventually corrosion will
make for a poor connection?


Compression fit is generally good for stranded, deadly for a
moving solid. Bright side: "Eventually" you won't care. :-)
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73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp


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gb May 15th 05 01:41 AM

"ml" wrote in message
...

My dipole (center) has the usual wire thru a eye bolt and wrapped around
itself like the arrl manual typically shows.
My ladder line transitions to the wire itself and is also wrapped around
questions:
Rather than soldering it, (thought it might be stiff and break??) I used
proper sized wire clamps(w/teeth) [two of them , torqued proper]
wonder if a good compression fit is OK ?
Or will corrosion eventually make this a poor connection?
It's still new enough i could clean it and solder it
Any thoughts? I would hate to throw off harmonics


Split bolts are used by electricians.
If you are concerned about corrosion, wrap the joint with good electrical
tape (rated for outdoor usage - UV and temperature range) - some power
companies do this for outdoor connections subject to corrosion, etc.

gb



John Smith May 15th 05 01:52 AM

There is a two-component epoxy putty, I have used this to
water-proof/weather-proof different kludges of mine--even to construct
standoff, insulators and unique hardware bits... my latest stash came from
the 99-cent store... "bondo" can also be used from autosupply stores (used
to fill dents in auto bodies) with good success (strength is somewhat
less)...

Warmest regards,
John
--
Marbles can be used in models with excellent results! However, if forced
to keep using all of mine up... I may end up at a disadvantage... I seem
to have misplaced some already!!!


"gb" wrote in message
...
| "ml" wrote in message
| ...
|
| My dipole (center) has the usual wire thru a eye bolt and wrapped around
| itself like the arrl manual typically shows.
| My ladder line transitions to the wire itself and is also wrapped around
| questions:
| Rather than soldering it, (thought it might be stiff and break??) I
used
| proper sized wire clamps(w/teeth) [two of them , torqued proper]
| wonder if a good compression fit is OK ?
| Or will corrosion eventually make this a poor connection?
| It's still new enough i could clean it and solder it
| Any thoughts? I would hate to throw off harmonics
|
| Split bolts are used by electricians.
| If you are concerned about corrosion, wrap the joint with good electrical
| tape (rated for outdoor usage - UV and temperature range) - some power
| companies do this for outdoor connections subject to corrosion, etc.
|
| gb
|
|



Atec May 15th 05 08:56 AM

John Smith wrote:
There is a two-component epoxy putty, I have used this to
water-proof/weather-proof different kludges of mine--even to construct
standoff, insulators and unique hardware bits... my latest stash came from
the 99-cent store... "bondo" can also be used from autosupply stores (used
to fill dents in auto bodies) with good success (strength is somewhat
less)...

Warmest regards,
John

You need to buy a roll of cablers seal , sold under different names but
its essentially butyl rubber tape that pressure seal when rapped , only
a few bucks a roll and lasts a decade ( sticks really well but try to
remove it )

John Smith May 15th 05 09:11 AM

I have used that tape, or a product just like it--but prefer the epoxy...
you can work it like clay--strong as steel and apparently excellent
insulating qualities... wonderful stuff really...

Warmest regards,
John
--
If "God"--expecting an angel... if evolution--expecting an alien... just
wondering if I will be able to tell the difference!

"Atec" wrote in message
...
| John Smith wrote:
| There is a two-component epoxy putty, I have used this to
| water-proof/weather-proof different kludges of mine--even to construct
| standoff, insulators and unique hardware bits... my latest stash came
from
| the 99-cent store... "bondo" can also be used from autosupply stores
(used
| to fill dents in auto bodies) with good success (strength is somewhat
| less)...
|
| Warmest regards,
| John
| You need to buy a roll of cablers seal , sold under different names but
| its essentially butyl rubber tape that pressure seal when rapped , only
| a few bucks a roll and lasts a decade ( sticks really well but try to
| remove it )



Atec May 15th 05 12:24 PM

John Smith wrote:
I have used that tape, or a product just like it--but prefer the epoxy...
you can work it like clay--strong as steel and apparently excellent
insulating qualities... wonderful stuff really...

Warmest regards,
John

I dislike it ('poxy), but whatever .

ml May 15th 05 12:37 PM

In article ,
Cecil Moore wrote:

ml wrote:
wonder if a good compression fit is ok, or if eventually corrosion will
make for a poor connection?


Compression fit is generally good for stranded, deadly for a
moving solid. Bright side: "Eventually" you won't care. :-)


no kidding i'd think it was the other way around, shows u what i know

lucky for me my babies' stranded, gee that sounded funny


but seriously folks, thanks very much to all those that replyed,!!

seems the jest' is my clamps are ok (my GF liked those little clamps
too)

.... as long as i wrap them up --i used coax seal

i guess a drop of corrosion is not fatel, at least w/all the conditins
my swr is still same 1:1 most bands



thanks all

Fred W4JLE May 15th 05 05:11 PM


I applied the tape, played a Ying Yang Twins CD and nothing happened.

"Atec" wrote in message
...
John

You need to buy a roll of cablers seal , sold under different names but
its essentially butyl rubber tape that pressure seal when rapped , only
a few bucks a roll and lasts a decade ( sticks really well but try to
remove it )




John Smith May 15th 05 05:51 PM

Fred:

I might agree, I got epoxy up the "ying-yang" and a few rock-n'-roll cd's,
so got it covered!!!

Warmest regards,
John
--
If "God"--expecting an angel... if evolution--expecting an alien... just
wondering if I will be able to tell the difference!

"Fred W4JLE" wrote in message
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|
| I applied the tape, played a Ying Yang Twins CD and nothing happened.
|
| "Atec" wrote in message
| ...
| John
| You need to buy a roll of cablers seal , sold under different names but
| its essentially butyl rubber tape that pressure seal when rapped , only
| a few bucks a roll and lasts a decade ( sticks really well but try to
| remove it )
|
|




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