WCB wrote:

Matthew Weber wrote:



Cecil Moore wrote:



Dave Althoff, Jr. wrote:



Do you believe the Bible to be the "Word of God"? Or the "Words of
God"?


Actually, the word or words of "Elohim", i.e. Gods.
Elohim is *PLURAL*. Yahweh was one of the Elohim.


Yes, Elohim is a plural word. It doesn't necessarily signify that
Yahweh is one of many gods. Some grammarians have referred to it as a
"plural of majesty".




See Genesis 6, god has a number of sons,
when the bible says gods, plural, it means that literally.



How do you figure? That isn't in line with anything found elsewhere in
the Bible, or any respectable hermeneutic.

Does the Queen of England mean to imply that there is more than one of
her when she uses the "royal We"?

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Cecil Moore wrote:

Tony Elka wrote:

You do realize that Texas was part of Mexico before we stole it?


Texas was actually stolen four or five times and one
time Mexico was the thief when they stole Texas from
Spain. Texas was originally stolen by the Europeans
from the Indians who thought owning land was a ridiculous
concept.

And look where that attitude got them!

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Matthew Weber wrote:

Cecil Moore wrote:

Tony Elka wrote:

You do realize that Texas was part of Mexico before we stole it?



Texas was actually stolen four or five times and one
time Mexico was the thief when they stole Texas from
Spain. Texas was originally stolen by the Europeans
from the Indians who thought owning land was a ridiculous
concept.


And look where that attitude got them!

I've always been puzzled why people thought that how things end up was a
surprise. If you took someone who somehow was not aware of the history
and said to them: You've got two societies of people on the same land:
One group does not believe in private property ownership, and the other
one does - which one do you think over time will end up taking posession
of and claiming - how else can you put it? - *ownership* of that land?
I'm not saying it's right, or that how it was done was right, but I
often question the honesty and intelligence of people that act appalled
at how it ended up. I mean - it should be a required question on any
intelligence test, and anyone who anwered that the group that didn't
believe in private property ownership would end up displacing the group
that did should be put in the moron category regardless of how they
answered any other questions.

Bill Putney
(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
address with the letter 'x')

Matthew Weber wrote:

Cecil Moore wrote:

Tony Elka wrote:

You do realize that Texas was part of Mexico before we stole it?



Texas was actually stolen four or five times and one
time Mexico was the thief when they stole Texas from
Spain. Texas was originally stolen by the Europeans
from the Indians who thought owning land was a ridiculous
concept.


And look where that attitude got them!

Yep!! They rob the white man today ... Foxwoods, Mohegan Sun, etc.

For the uninitiated, Foxwoods et al are gambling casinos on indian
reservations.

Matthew Weber wrote:

WCB wrote:

Matthew Weber wrote:



Cecil Moore wrote:



Dave Althoff, Jr. wrote:



Do you believe the Bible to be the "Word of God"? Or the "Words of
God"?


Actually, the word or words of "Elohim", i.e. Gods.
Elohim is *PLURAL*. Yahweh was one of the Elohim.


Yes, Elohim is a plural word. It doesn't necessarily signify that
Yahweh is one of many gods. Some grammarians have referred to it as a
"plural of majesty".




See Genesis 6, god has a number of sons,
when the bible says gods, plural, it means that literally.



How do you figure? That isn't in line with anything found elsewhere in
the Bible, or any respectable hermeneutic.



Read Genesis 6. We get only heavily edited, redacted bits and pieces
of old myths. Much has been thrown out, edited out, gone
forever.
We just a few bits of the old myth peeking out through cracks in the
old testament.

Where did they come from? What was the deal with them? Well
that has been edited out and we wil never know, except
the fossil language. Behold the man has become one of us to know
good and evil... Why the magic fruit trees? There is a lot
that was taken out of the original myths.

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Xenu is around and about,
mention Hubbard, Xenu pops out!
No way for the clams to stamp Xenu out,
Xenu is around and about!

Cheerful Charlie

On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 19:14:11 -0400, Ham op wrote:

Matthew Weber wrote:

Cecil Moore wrote:

Tony Elka wrote:

You do realize that Texas was part of Mexico before we stole it?



Texas was actually stolen four or five times and one
time Mexico was the thief when they stole Texas from
Spain. Texas was originally stolen by the Europeans
from the Indians who thought owning land was a ridiculous
concept.


And look where that attitude got them!

Yep!! They rob the white man today ... Foxwoods, Mohegan Sun, etc.

For the uninitiated, Foxwoods et al are gambling casinos on indian
reservations.


What goes around ....

Tough when the second shoe fits too tight, huh?