RadioBanter

RadioBanter (https://www.radiobanter.com/)
-   Antenna (https://www.radiobanter.com/antenna/)
-   -   Rotate TriBand to vertical? (https://www.radiobanter.com/antenna/73804-rotate-triband-vertical.html)

John Ferrell July 1st 05 08:26 PM

Rotate TriBand to vertical?
 
I have a Cushcraft A3 beam on a crank up/tilt over tower. When I tilt
it over, it still requires a ladder to work on it due to the length of
the elements.

What I would like to do is to be able to rotate it as though I were
trying for vertical polarization before or during the tilt over
process. That would bring the antenna to a "flat" attitude for
maintenance and storm protection.

Any thoughts? The usual old fashioned Ham parameters apply: Little
cost as possible, build as much as I can my self, etc......

BTW, I have several good TV rotators I might use, but none with a hole
all the way through!

de W8CCW


Blue Dawg July 2nd 05 04:03 AM

Joh, email me at . I hate that name but it was
what a gal did to me when she set my computer up for me on the internet
and a site deal and some other crud and I'm sorta tied into that.
Cliff G.


Jer July 2nd 05 04:32 AM

Why don't you just change it, its easy enough?

Jer

"Blue Dawg" wrote in message
oups.com...
Joh, email me at . I hate that name but it was
what a gal did to me when she set my computer up for me on the internet
and a site deal and some other crud and I'm sorta tied into that.
Cliff G.




dutchman2u July 2nd 05 06:37 AM

What size is your boom . you could use a U-100 aliance rotor they have
a 1"5/8 hole throgh. You can find them on ebay for say 40-50 -or
less. Make a T on the mask pipe and mount the rotor on it side use
the clamps to the T and walla. roll it over vertial or horizonal a
very easy fix only need 3or 4 wire to make it work . also u can
insert a 15/8" in the middle of the boom .. pin it well if the boom is
2" or more .. 73 Ralph


dutchman2u July 2nd 05 06:37 AM

What size is your boom . you could use a U-100 aliance rotor they have
a 1"5/8 hole throgh. You can find them on ebay for say 40-50 -or
less. Make a T on the mask pipe and mount the rotor on it side use
the clamps to the T and walla. roll it over vertial or horizonal a
very easy fix only need 3or 4 wire to make it work . also u can
insert a 15/8" in the middle of the boom .. pin it well if the boom is
2" or more .. 73 Ralph


Tam/WB2TT July 2nd 05 03:28 PM


"John Ferrell" wrote in message
...
I have a Cushcraft A3 beam on a crank up/tilt over tower. When I tilt
it over, it still requires a ladder to work on it due to the length of
the elements.

What I would like to do is to be able to rotate it as though I were
trying for vertical polarization before or during the tilt over
process. That would bring the antenna to a "flat" attitude for
maintenance and storm protection.

Any thoughts? The usual old fashioned Ham parameters apply: Little
cost as possible, build as much as I can my self, etc......

BTW, I have several good TV rotators I might use, but none with a hole
all the way through!

de W8CCW

I have a Hygain TH3Mk4, which is on a 14 foot boom. What I do is to first
rotate the antenna so that when the tower is tilted down, the antenna is
pointed straight up, with the reflector parallel to the ground. I tilt the
tower until the rotator is resting on the part of an 8 foot step ladder that
the paint can is supposed to go on. This gives access to the reflector and
driven element. At that point I would take the antenna off the boom if I had
to do anything other than work on the feedline, but have had no reason to do
that.

Here is something else you could try: drill a hole through the boom, mast,
and mounting plate, and insert a 1/4 inch bolt through the whole thing. Now,
remove the U bolts that fasten the plate to the mast. You can now swing the
boom parallel to the mast. I don't need to do this for the HyGain, but it
should work with the CushCraft.

Tam/WB2TT



Buck July 2nd 05 07:49 PM

Install an elevation rotor.

On Fri, 01 Jul 2005 19:26:56 GMT, John Ferrell
wrote:

I have a Cushcraft A3 beam on a crank up/tilt over tower. When I tilt
it over, it still requires a ladder to work on it due to the length of
the elements.

What I would like to do is to be able to rotate it as though I were
trying for vertical polarization before or during the tilt over
process. That would bring the antenna to a "flat" attitude for
maintenance and storm protection.

Any thoughts? The usual old fashioned Ham parameters apply: Little
cost as possible, build as much as I can my self, etc......

BTW, I have several good TV rotators I might use, but none with a hole
all the way through!

de W8CCW


--
73 for now
Buck
N4PGW

John Ferrell July 2nd 05 07:59 PM

I had not thought about pointing it up/down, I was fixated on rolling
the boom. I will think on that.

Thanks!
John, de W8CCW

On Sat, 2 Jul 2005 10:28:02 -0400, "Tam/WB2TT"
wrote:


"John Ferrell" wrote in message
.. .
I have a Cushcraft A3 beam on a crank up/tilt over tower. When I tilt
it over, it still requires a ladder to work on it due to the length of
the elements.

What I would like to do is to be able to rotate it as though I were
trying for vertical polarization before or during the tilt over
process. That would bring the antenna to a "flat" attitude for
maintenance and storm protection.

Any thoughts? The usual old fashioned Ham parameters apply: Little
cost as possible, build as much as I can my self, etc......

BTW, I have several good TV rotators I might use, but none with a hole
all the way through!

de W8CCW

I have a Hygain TH3Mk4, which is on a 14 foot boom. What I do is to first
rotate the antenna so that when the tower is tilted down, the antenna is
pointed straight up, with the reflector parallel to the ground. I tilt the
tower until the rotator is resting on the part of an 8 foot step ladder that
the paint can is supposed to go on. This gives access to the reflector and
driven element. At that point I would take the antenna off the boom if I had
to do anything other than work on the feedline, but have had no reason to do
that.

Here is something else you could try: drill a hole through the boom, mast,
and mounting plate, and insert a 1/4 inch bolt through the whole thing. Now,
remove the U bolts that fasten the plate to the mast. You can now swing the
boom parallel to the mast. I don't need to do this for the HyGain, but it
should work with the CushCraft.

Tam/WB2TT



John Ferrell July 2nd 05 08:08 PM

I would rather not put a used rotor up there because of the
maintenence problems. However, I will dig out the specs on the boom
size and give it further thought.
Thanks,
John, de W8CCW

On 1 Jul 2005 22:37:40 -0700, "dutchman2u" wrote:

What size is your boom . you could use a U-100 aliance rotor they have
a 1"5/8 hole throgh. You can find them on ebay for say 40-50 -or
less. Make a T on the mask pipe and mount the rotor on it side use
the clamps to the T and walla. roll it over vertial or horizonal a
very easy fix only need 3or 4 wire to make it work . also u can
insert a 15/8" in the middle of the boom .. pin it well if the boom is
2" or more .. 73 Ralph



John Ferrell July 2nd 05 08:12 PM

I need to switch it bac & forth while on the tower.

On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 03:32:23 GMT, "Jer"
wrote:

Why don't you just change it, its easy enough?

Jer

"Blue Dawg" wrote in message
roups.com...
Joh, email me at . I hate that name but it was
what a gal did to me when she set my computer up for me on the internet
and a site deal and some other crud and I'm sorta tied into that.
Cliff G.




John Ferrell July 3rd 05 02:25 PM

That would work. The problem that it is pricy (Yaesu-$320), heavy (8
pounds), may not be enough to handle an HF tribander.

On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 14:49:56 -0400, Buck wrote:

Install an elevation rotor.

On Fri, 01 Jul 2005 19:26:56 GMT, John Ferrell
wrote:

I have a Cushcraft A3 beam on a crank up/tilt over tower. When I tilt
it over, it still requires a ladder to work on it due to the length of
the elements.

What I would like to do is to be able to rotate it as though I were
trying for vertical polarization before or during the tilt over
process. That would bring the antenna to a "flat" attitude for
maintenance and storm protection.

Any thoughts? The usual old fashioned Ham parameters apply: Little
cost as possible, build as much as I can my self, etc......

BTW, I have several good TV rotators I might use, but none with a hole
all the way through!

de W8CCW



Buck July 3rd 05 02:43 PM

On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 13:25:40 GMT, John Ferrell
wrote:

That would work. The problem that it is pricy (Yaesu-$320), heavy (8
pounds), may not be enough to handle an HF tribander.

On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 14:49:56 -0400, Buck wrote:

Install an elevation rotor.



I had an Alliance Tenna Rotor for years. It worked well and only cost
$50 used.

The only other alternative might be to create yourself a bracket that
you can loosen. Lower the antenna part way, Loosen the bracket and
turn the antenna by hand. Then finish lowering the tower.

The only other alternative I see that you haven't rejected is to mount
the beam vertical and leave it that way when you raise the tower.

Good luck
N4PGW

--
73 for now
Buck
N4PGW

John Ferrell July 3rd 05 08:41 PM

Thanks for the ideas. It takes a taller ladder than I like to loosen
the boom mount bolts. I may eventually work it out. Or, may be I will
live with what I have.

John, de W8CCW

On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 09:43:53 -0400, Buck wrote:

On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 13:25:40 GMT, John Ferrell
wrote:

That would work. The problem that it is pricy (Yaesu-$320), heavy (8
pounds), may not be enough to handle an HF tribander.

On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 14:49:56 -0400, Buck wrote:

Install an elevation rotor.



I had an Alliance Tenna Rotor for years. It worked well and only cost
$50 used.

The only other alternative might be to create yourself a bracket that
you can loosen. Lower the antenna part way, Loosen the bracket and
turn the antenna by hand. Then finish lowering the tower.

The only other alternative I see that you haven't rejected is to mount
the beam vertical and leave it that way when you raise the tower.

Good luck
N4PGW




All times are GMT +1. The time now is 12:38 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
RadioBanter.com