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On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 11:05:24 -0500, Marcel scrubbing vigorously in the
air: Typical of you to call someone stupid when they simply come from a different field It stands to reason when that engineer changes the questions to suit the only answers he knows. Only a stupid engineer would use the cross product to figure out 60Hz transmission line delivery. Really, I too have a library, thick volumes including very detailed specifics of 60Hz power, and they seemed to have built an entire industry without worrying about direction vectors. Luckily they didn't employ flip-flop designers to build linear systems. Ask him what is in his transmission lines and he will say power, some of it reactive. The topic of reactive LOADS (not lines) is discussed at great length and nowhere is it stated that transmission lines have power IN THEM. However, your impoverished representation of the power industry knowledge serves only your lame theories. Which one is the vector? P^ = E^ x H^ The very first formula from the Standard Handbook for Electrical Engineers, Section 11, Power Transmission, Electrical Calculations: I = P / E (1) no vector notation used or needed. (I appologize if that fact bothers physicists.) Your guilt has been duly noted. Standard Handbook for Electrical Engineers, Section 11, Power Transmission, Electrical Calculations, Para 13, Transmission Line calculations: "Analytical solutions of problems involving vector quantities may be made by resolving each vector into two components - R and jX" no vector notation used or needed, and certainly direction and power are wholly missing. This is entirely congruent with my statement. Standard Handbook for Electrical Engineers, Section 11, Power Transmission, Para. 33, Charts and Diagrams: Figures 19 & 20, Perrine-Baum diagrams. no direction vectors whatever. Standard Handbook for Electrical Engineers, Section 11, Power Transmission, Para. 36, Charts and Diagrams: Figures 22, Mershon diagrams. no direction vectors whatever. Standard Handbook for Electrical Engineers, Section 11, Power Transmission, Para. 44, General Features of Design: no direction vectors whatever. Standard Handbook for Electrical Engineers, Section 11, Power Transmission, Para. 69, System Disturbances: no direction vectors whatever. The wavelength of 60Hz power is about 3000 miles Standard Handbook for Electrical Engineers, Section 11, Power Transmission, Para. 73, A Line whose length is a quarter wave: L = 183000 / 4f no direction vectors whatever. FINALLY! The only explicit direction vector (but still no math vector actually used): Standard Handbook for Electrical Engineers, Section 11, Power Transmission, Para. 102, Calculation of Horizontal Stress; Para. 106, Example of stress-sag calculation; Para. 111 The Thomas chart for sag; Para. 129, Flexible Towers ... Well, that's just about the end of it (this tome is only 2000 pages long and undoubtedly missed your cross product somewhere among all this useless information). |
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