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Fred W4JLE July 22nd 05 04:20 PM

We Americans are are at the root of all the worlds problems. It has been so
stated by Saddam Hussen, Castro, and various other idiots, and now
confirmed by you.

Find a spot on my big fat hairy McDonalds eating ass and kiss it. I weary of
your anti American rhetoric and lack of appreciation for saving your sorry
asses!

You fail to take responsibility for your own lives and like petulant
children find it easier blame America.





"Polymoth" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 at 22:55:41, wrote:
You Americans got a taste of terrorism in your own back yard and lost
interest in funding Irish Republican terrorists.

It's a shame it took so long.





NunYa Bidness July 22nd 05 09:23 PM

On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 11:20:47 -0400, "Fred W4JLE"
Gave us:

We Americans are are at the root of all the worlds problems. It has been so
stated by Saddam Hussen, Castro, and various other idiots, and now
confirmed by you.

Find a spot on my big fat hairy McDonalds eating ass and kiss it. I weary of
your anti American rhetoric and lack of appreciation for saving your sorry
asses!

You fail to take responsibility for your own lives and like petulant
children find it easier blame America.



Here here... there there...



"Polymoth" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 at 22:55:41, wrote:
You Americans got a taste of terrorism in your own back yard and lost
interest in funding Irish Republican terrorists.

It's a shame it took so long.



We "funded" the IRA?

Richard Clark July 22nd 05 09:44 PM

On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 20:23:26 GMT, NunYa Bidness
wrote:

We "funded" the IRA?


To much inhalation of Los Angles smog can be the only answer that
would explain not knowing that.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Tom Donaly July 22nd 05 09:48 PM

NunYa Bidness wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 11:20:47 -0400, "Fred W4JLE"
Gave us:


We Americans are are at the root of all the worlds problems. It has been so
stated by Saddam Hussen, Castro, and various other idiots, and now
confirmed by you.

Find a spot on my big fat hairy McDonalds eating ass and kiss it. I weary of
your anti American rhetoric and lack of appreciation for saving your sorry
asses!

You fail to take responsibility for your own lives and like petulant
children find it easier blame America.




Here here... there there...



"Polymoth" wrote in message
. ..

On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 at 22:55:41, wrote:
You Americans got a taste of terrorism in your own back yard and lost
interest in funding Irish Republican terrorists.

It's a shame it took so long.



We "funded" the IRA?


The British have always been under the impression that
we Americans saved our pennies for the sole purpose of
sending them to the IRA to finance the IRA's terrorist practices.
This is news to those of us who lived through the whole
era without giving anyone anything, or even taking sides
on the issue. There may have been a few Irish expatriots on
the East Coast who contributed to the IRA during that time,
but, for most Americans, it was a struggle that just didn't
register.
73,
Tom Donaly, KA6RUH

John Smith July 22nd 05 09:53 PM

I have always used the CFA as a mobile antenna!

Get with the program people, you will be hard pressed to find a better
antenna for this purpose!

As a shack antenna, it sucks!

However, what other antenna can you chuck a motor into, slap a
steering wheel and horn on and drive?

You guys are all wet, as usual... satisfied-smirk

John

"Polymath" wrote in message
...
Actually, just did a quick webbing and found enough to
realise that the claims are founded upon feet of clay.....

1. You do not separately excite the E and H fields because
if you excite an E field, you get a corresponding H field, and
vice-versa,
even if it is your intention to excite separately.

2. The differential forms of Maxwell describe the fields at _EVERY_
infinitesimal point and there is no way that the attempt to excite
two
separate fields from two separate mechanical contrivances will
result
in registration at every single point. Indeed, it is doubtful that
registration
will be achieved at all at any infinitesimal point. In any case, as
in (1) above,
your E field will have its H, and your H field will have its E field
already.

3. In the accepted equations describing the generated field,
radiation comes only
from accelerating charges. Thus the capacitive elements of the CFA
will
create the near field (decaying as 1/(r^2)) but not any radiated
field
(decaying as 1/r). I wonder if the measurements resulting in the
claims
for the CFA were made in the near field?

I wonder if the whole thing is intended as an elaborate hoax, and
that the
authors, in their original paper in Wireless World, relied on the
fact that
most readers' eyes would glaze over when faced with the maths of
vector
fields? (Remember, that in this NG we've had someone who boasts of
two degrees, one in maths and the other in electronics, stating that
e^(-jwt)
is a function that decreases with increasing time, thus indicating
that the
awarding of a degree together with the professing of mathematical
equations is no guarantee of competence!)

I suggest
http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teachin...es/node53.html etc
as a good revising/learning/debunking cookbook. (Don't start from
node 53!)

"Polymath" wrote in message
...
I've just about got enough elec-and-mag theory to be
able to understand the claims made for the GM3HAT
CFA; any pointers to the patent claims?







keith July 23rd 05 04:49 AM

On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 22:45:25 +0000, kashe wrote:

On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 21:40:02 +0100, Walt Davidson
wrote:

On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 12:56:44 -0500, Cecil Moore
wrote:

For a police state to exist, the first step is
to disarm the citizens.


The citizens in this country have never been armed, and in fact even
hand-guns for sport use were recently outlawed.

73 de G3NYY


OK. For a police state to exist, the second step is saturation
video surveillance of the downtown area of your capital.


Good idea. It certainly helped the Brits nail down the perps.

The third step is to destroy the public library system through
non-judicially-supervised, on-demand, secret surveillance.


I hope you don't get your engineering information from CBS news too.

--
Keith

NunYa Bidness July 23rd 05 10:12 AM

On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 13:44:23 -0700, Richard Clark
Gave us:

On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 20:23:26 GMT, NunYa Bidness
wrote:

We "funded" the IRA?


To much inhalation of Los Angles smog can be the only answer that
would explain not knowing that.


Never been there, though the news server my ISP utilizes is there. I
can also log onto one of several others from Texas to Nevada. All
prodigy. ISP: SBC. Go figure.

NunYa Bidness July 23rd 05 10:14 AM

On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 13:53:42 -0700, "John Smith"
Gave us:

You guys are all wet, as usual... satisfied-smirk


I suppose then that you consider yourself to be firmly grounded in
reality.

NunYa Bidness July 23rd 05 10:16 AM

On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 23:49:42 -0400, keith Gave us:

I hope you don't get your engineering information from CBS news too.


They have a second channel now? :-)

John Smith July 23rd 05 01:24 PM

Firmly grounded?

Actually, when I am finished installing the mercedes turbo-jet engine
in the CFA, I plan on flying it!--well, after installing the carbon
graphite wings...

John

"NunYa Bidness" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 13:53:42 -0700, "John Smith"
Gave us:

You guys are all wet, as usual... satisfied-smirk


I suppose then that you consider yourself to be firmly grounded in
reality.





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