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Old July 19th 05, 01:21 AM
Fred W4JLE
 
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Given that logic, I assume you drive a model T.

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Or you could pay 175 for the Original made by the original Designer.
Why should it be 240-350 when 175 will do ?



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Old July 19th 05, 02:46 AM
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Fred W4JLE wrote:
Given that logic, I assume you drive a model T.

"Rick Scott" wrote in message
oups.com...

Or you could pay 175 for the Original made by the original Designer.
Why should it be 240-350 when 175 will do ?


No, But your own argument is that you shouldnt pay 5-700 dollars for
somthing that yours does the same for 240-350.

So using your argument, why pay 240-350 for somthing that the Original
does for 175 ????
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Old July 19th 05, 03:23 AM
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Hi Rick,

Why so argumentative?

As far as I'm concerned, the more good ol' boys we have making
different antennas, the more choices we'll have. Do you think
choice is a bad thing? If someone else's antenna offers better
value than the poster (in your opinion), then buy someone else's
antenna. That's how the free market works. 8-)

Ed

"Rick Scott" wrote in message
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Fred W4JLE wrote:
Given that logic, I assume you drive a model T.

"Rick Scott" wrote in message
oups.com...

Or you could pay 175 for the Original made by the original Designer.
Why should it be 240-350 when 175 will do ?


No, But your own argument is that you shouldnt pay 5-700 dollars for
somthing that yours does the same for 240-350.

So using your argument, why pay 240-350 for somthing that the Original
does for 175 ????




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Old July 19th 05, 03:22 AM
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Rick the original has limited power handling capability, a small diameter
coil and no posititioning circuitry or automatic control. Compare it for
example with the offering from http://thescrewdriver.com Compare the specs
of some of the offerings of other vendors as well.

While I agree that some out there are junk, a number have made improvements
in construction, control, and power handling capabilities.

Or you can do as I have done and build your own. Assuming you have a friend
that has a lathe to cut the grooves in your core material, your willing to
rework a screwdriver motor, find a couple of friends to build one with you,
it can be built for about $70.00.
..
If you do it by yourself, be prepared to buy a 12 foot length of copper vent
pipe and not use 8 feet of it. Minimum orders for phospher bronze finger
stock, and a minimum of 12 mailing tubes and covers of which you will use
one of each. Then you are talking about $130.00 for materials not counting
the PVC, matching coil, control box, capacitors, and mounting hardware.

Had I not been involved with a bunch of great guys over by North Augusta, I
doubt I would have built one myself.

"Rick Scott" wrote in message
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Fred W4JLE wrote:
Given that logic, I assume you drive a model T.

"Rick Scott" wrote in message
oups.com...

Or you could pay 175 for the Original made by the original Designer.
Why should it be 240-350 when 175 will do ?


No, But your own argument is that you shouldnt pay 5-700 dollars for
somthing that yours does the same for 240-350.

So using your argument, why pay 240-350 for somthing that the Original
does for 175 ????



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Old July 19th 05, 04:05 AM
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Fred W4JLE wrote:
Not to "knock" the name brands in HF mobile, but have you ever wondered
why
they cost so much--up to 700 bucks for a screwdriver all-band mobile
antenna? I do because I couln't AFFORD to pay 5-7 hundred bucks for
a mobile HF antenna! And it's not the performance you are paying for; it's
fancy paint jobs and "consumer" gimmickry that run the price up

This was your original ... Im not Knocking yours. I only POSTED exactly
what you did yet you took exception. WHY?

I cannot afford 5-7 for those nor can I pay 250-350.

But 175 is more reasonable

Why do you Knock MY choice when your advertising YOUR choice. I was
mearly Pointing out

Or you could pay 175 for the Original made by the original Designer.
Why should it be 240-350 when 175 will do ?


I pointed out you could pay 175 instead of 240-350. Then you go on
in your second to tell me I should go and build one myself go buy the
stock and YADA YADA. WHY, what does that serve to tell me. Im shopping,
Do you as a sales person who actually is comparing prices for products
tell me to go build my own. Would a car dealer ???

I dont see why your so defensive. If you have a good product people
will buy it. Some wont, but to tell me IM wrong for comparing is wrong.

I run 100 watts, always have always will, so what does it do for me to
have these bigger coils etc. Hell I run Iron Horse whips and can run
with a lot of screwdrivers because of the way I install and run them.
Many swear Im running a Screwdriver already. So what.

Im looking for a single antenna that does what a screwdriver does.

You posted, I posted an alternate and now your up in arms.

How about if I get all the other MFGs in here to get all up in arms with
your posting because your saying they are too costly.





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Old July 19th 05, 05:15 AM
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Rick you have me confused with someone else, I have never sold a screwdriver
antenna in my life. Not even a used one!

"Rick Scott" wrote in message
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Fred W4JLE wrote:
Not to "knock" the name brands in HF mobile, but have you ever wondered
why
they cost so much--up to 700 bucks for a screwdriver all-band mobile
antenna? I do because I couln't AFFORD to pay 5-7 hundred bucks for
a mobile HF antenna! And it's not the performance you are paying for;

it's
fancy paint jobs and "consumer" gimmickry that run the price up

This was your original ... Im not Knocking yours. I only POSTED exactly
what you did yet you took exception. WHY?

I cannot afford 5-7 for those nor can I pay 250-350.

But 175 is more reasonable

Why do you Knock MY choice when your advertising YOUR choice. I was
mearly Pointing out

Or you could pay 175 for the Original made by the original Designer.
Why should it be 240-350 when 175 will do ?


I pointed out you could pay 175 instead of 240-350. Then you go on
in your second to tell me I should go and build one myself go buy the
stock and YADA YADA. WHY, what does that serve to tell me. Im shopping,
Do you as a sales person who actually is comparing prices for products
tell me to go build my own. Would a car dealer ???

I dont see why your so defensive. If you have a good product people
will buy it. Some wont, but to tell me IM wrong for comparing is wrong.

I run 100 watts, always have always will, so what does it do for me to
have these bigger coils etc. Hell I run Iron Horse whips and can run
with a lot of screwdrivers because of the way I install and run them.
Many swear Im running a Screwdriver already. So what.

Im looking for a single antenna that does what a screwdriver does.

You posted, I posted an alternate and now your up in arms.

How about if I get all the other MFGs in here to get all up in arms with
your posting because your saying they are too costly.





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Old July 19th 05, 03:57 PM
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Sorry hit the wrong reply too button .

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Old July 19th 05, 03:35 AM
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On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 18:46:15 -0700, Rick Scott
wrote:

Fred W4JLE wrote:
Given that logic, I assume you drive a model T.

"Rick Scott" wrote in message
oups.com...

Or you could pay 175 for the Original made by the original Designer.
Why should it be 240-350 when 175 will do ?


No, But your own argument is that you shouldnt pay 5-700 dollars for
somthing that yours does the same for 240-350.

So using your argument, why pay 240-350 for somthing that the Original
does for 175 ????


Maybe you should ask Rummy why he's paying $100,000+ for Hummers when
the Original, the Jeep, runs about $16,000.

bob
k5qwg


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Old July 19th 05, 04:06 AM
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Maybe you should ask Rummy why he's paying $100,000+ for Hummers when
the Original, the Jeep, runs about $16,000.

bob
k5qwg


Id like to know that myself?

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Old July 20th 05, 03:45 AM
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Last I checked, and I'll admit it was a few years ago, the HUMVEE was
gov't priced at about $37,000. Not inexpensive, but durable, safer
than the Jeep, and with more armor and cargo capacity.

Scott
N2WMD

On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 02:35:46 GMT, Bob Miller
wrote:

On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 18:46:15 -0700, Rick Scott
wrote:

Fred W4JLE wrote:
Given that logic, I assume you drive a model T.

"Rick Scott" wrote in message
oups.com...

Or you could pay 175 for the Original made by the original Designer.
Why should it be 240-350 when 175 will do ?


No, But your own argument is that you shouldnt pay 5-700 dollars for
somthing that yours does the same for 240-350.

So using your argument, why pay 240-350 for somthing that the Original
does for 175 ????


Maybe you should ask Rummy why he's paying $100,000+ for Hummers when
the Original, the Jeep, runs about $16,000.

bob
k5qwg




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