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Ken Bessler August 2nd 05 08:03 PM

Suggestions?
 
I'm looking for an antenna connector with the following
idea:

I want to mount a spare 2m/440 mobile antenna on my
race bike and use my FT-51R ht on my belt with the
deluxe remote mic on the handlebars.

Problem is that if I wreck, the radio will want to stay on
my belt but the coax going to the antenna won't! The mic
connector will pull out but the antenna connector (BNC)
will stay until something breaks. If I wreck, I may need my
HT to call for assistance (it's happened once before) I
need an inepensive 50 ohm pair of connectors that will slide
apart when pulled. Kinda like a push on F fitting but for
50 ohm RG-58 cable.

The only ones I've thought of are the F fitting or an RCA
connection. Anybody know the impedance of an RCA plug?

Are there push on BNC or 259 connectors? Cost matters.

--
Just my 2¢... 73 es gd dx de Ken KGØWX
Grid EM17ip, Flying Pigs #-1055
Proud builder & owner of Elecraft K2 #4913



Richard Clark August 2nd 05 08:10 PM

On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 14:03:11 -0500, "Ken Bessler"
wrote:

Are there push on BNC or 259 connectors? Cost matters.


Hi Ken,

Just take a jeweler's saw to the BNC bayonet lock and cut slots at the
detent. Or buy type N male connector and discard the screw collar.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Fred W4JLE August 2nd 05 08:16 PM

I told Lance, and now I will tell you, if you get in my way in your little
faggoty outfits and goofy helmets, I will run your ass over. Don't worry, I
will call 911 and let them know where to pick up your traffic blocking body.


"Ken Bessler" wrote in message
news:QrPHe.35144$Eo.25151@fed1read04...
I'm looking for an antenna connector with the following
idea:

I want to mount a spare 2m/440 mobile antenna on my
race bike and use my FT-51R ht on my belt with the
deluxe remote mic on the handlebars.

Problem is that if I wreck, the radio will want to stay on
my belt but the coax going to the antenna won't! The mic
connector will pull out but the antenna connector (BNC)
will stay until something breaks. If I wreck, I may need my
HT to call for assistance (it's happened once before) I
need an inepensive 50 ohm pair of connectors that will slide
apart when pulled. Kinda like a push on F fitting but for
50 ohm RG-58 cable.

The only ones I've thought of are the F fitting or an RCA
connection. Anybody know the impedance of an RCA plug?

Are there push on BNC or 259 connectors? Cost matters.

--
Just my 2¢... 73 es gd dx de Ken KGØWX
Grid EM17ip, Flying Pigs #-1055
Proud builder & owner of Elecraft K2 #4913





Roy Lewallen August 2nd 05 08:20 PM

I suggest filing the bumps off a BNC female. Without them, the connector
halves should fit snugly enough to stay together unless you tug on it.
You could use a little tape, a weak rubber band, or something similar to
hold it together a little more firmly while riding but which would break
away fairly easily.

If you try to use an RCA plug, the connections to it -- where you have
to split to coax conductors apart -- will cause a much greater impedance
bump than the connector itself. Since your communications seem to be
short range, you should be able to get by with a pretty bad impedance
bump, though. It would probably have the least effect if it's close to
the rig rather than at the antenna end of the coax.

Roy Lewallen, W7EL

Ken Bessler wrote:
I'm looking for an antenna connector with the following
idea:

I want to mount a spare 2m/440 mobile antenna on my
race bike and use my FT-51R ht on my belt with the
deluxe remote mic on the handlebars.

Problem is that if I wreck, the radio will want to stay on
my belt but the coax going to the antenna won't! The mic
connector will pull out but the antenna connector (BNC)
will stay until something breaks. If I wreck, I may need my
HT to call for assistance (it's happened once before) I
need an inepensive 50 ohm pair of connectors that will slide
apart when pulled. Kinda like a push on F fitting but for
50 ohm RG-58 cable.

The only ones I've thought of are the F fitting or an RCA
connection. Anybody know the impedance of an RCA plug?

Are there push on BNC or 259 connectors? Cost matters.

--
Just my 2¢... 73 es gd dx de Ken KGØWX
Grid EM17ip, Flying Pigs #-1055
Proud builder & owner of Elecraft K2 #4913



Hal Rosser August 2nd 05 10:20 PM

OR - tape your feet and hands to the bike so it will stay with you.

"Roy Lewallen" wrote in message
...
I suggest filing the bumps off a BNC female. Without them, the connector
halves should fit snugly enough to stay together unless you tug on it.
You could use a little tape, a weak rubber band, or something similar to
hold it together a little more firmly while riding but which would break
away fairly easily.

If you try to use an RCA plug, the connections to it -- where you have
to split to coax conductors apart -- will cause a much greater impedance
bump than the connector itself. Since your communications seem to be
short range, you should be able to get by with a pretty bad impedance
bump, though. It would probably have the least effect if it's close to
the rig rather than at the antenna end of the coax.

Roy Lewallen, W7EL

Ken Bessler wrote:
I'm looking for an antenna connector with the following
idea:

I want to mount a spare 2m/440 mobile antenna on my
race bike and use my FT-51R ht on my belt with the
deluxe remote mic on the handlebars.

Problem is that if I wreck, the radio will want to stay on
my belt but the coax going to the antenna won't! The mic
connector will pull out but the antenna connector (BNC)
will stay until something breaks. If I wreck, I may need my
HT to call for assistance (it's happened once before) I
need an inepensive 50 ohm pair of connectors that will slide
apart when pulled. Kinda like a push on F fitting but for
50 ohm RG-58 cable.

The only ones I've thought of are the F fitting or an RCA
connection. Anybody know the impedance of an RCA plug?

Are there push on BNC or 259 connectors? Cost matters.

--
Just my 2¢... 73 es gd dx de Ken KGØWX
Grid EM17ip, Flying Pigs #-1055
Proud builder & owner of Elecraft K2 #4913





Ed Price August 3rd 05 10:43 AM


"Ken Bessler" wrote in message
news:QrPHe.35144$Eo.25151@fed1read04...
I'm looking for an antenna connector with the following
idea:

I want to mount a spare 2m/440 mobile antenna on my
race bike and use my FT-51R ht on my belt with the
deluxe remote mic on the handlebars.

Problem is that if I wreck, the radio will want to stay on
my belt but the coax going to the antenna won't! The mic
connector will pull out but the antenna connector (BNC)
will stay until something breaks. If I wreck, I may need my
HT to call for assistance (it's happened once before) I
need an inepensive 50 ohm pair of connectors that will slide
apart when pulled. Kinda like a push on F fitting but for
50 ohm RG-58 cable.

The only ones I've thought of are the F fitting or an RCA
connection. Anybody know the impedance of an RCA plug?

Are there push on BNC or 259 connectors? Cost matters.



Take a look at SMB or SMC coax connectors. One of those, IIRC, is a push-on
style, and should uncouple before damaging the coax line.

--
Ed
WB6WSN
El Cajon, CA USA



Ham op August 4th 05 11:09 PM

It's obvious that Fred doesn't ride. My bike costs more than many HF
rigs !!!

BTW, in a crash, the BNC should break apart and have the coax tear out.
Solution, carry a cell phone and leave the radio at the shack!

I carry a 2/440 HT.

+ + +

Fred W4JLE wrote:
I told Lance, and now I will tell you, if you get in my way in your little
faggoty outfits and goofy helmets, I will run your ass over. Don't worry, I
will call 911 and let them know where to pick up your traffic blocking body.


"Ken Bessler" wrote in message
news:QrPHe.35144$Eo.25151@fed1read04...

I'm looking for an antenna connector with the following
idea:

I want to mount a spare 2m/440 mobile antenna on my
race bike and use my FT-51R ht on my belt with the
deluxe remote mic on the handlebars.

Problem is that if I wreck, the radio will want to stay on
my belt but the coax going to the antenna won't! The mic
connector will pull out but the antenna connector (BNC)
will stay until something breaks. If I wreck, I may need my
HT to call for assistance (it's happened once before) I
need an inepensive 50 ohm pair of connectors that will slide
apart when pulled. Kinda like a push on F fitting but for
50 ohm RG-58 cable.

The only ones I've thought of are the F fitting or an RCA
connection. Anybody know the impedance of an RCA plug?

Are there push on BNC or 259 connectors? Cost matters.

--
Just my 2¢... 73 es gd dx de Ken KGØWX
Grid EM17ip, Flying Pigs #-1055
Proud builder & owner of Elecraft K2 #4913







Ham op August 4th 05 11:13 PM

Most likely his feet are more secure than ski boots. Serious riders use
cleats and clamps for the feet. If they crash the bike stays with them
until they kick out.

My pedals, cleats and shoes cost $300. No need for tape!! :-)

Boy, you guys are teaching me a lesson! I though Ham Radio was/is
expensive, but, serious cycling is almost as expensive.

Hal Rosser wrote:

OR - tape your feet and hands to the bike so it will stay with you.

"Roy Lewallen" wrote in message
...

I suggest filing the bumps off a BNC female. Without them, the connector
halves should fit snugly enough to stay together unless you tug on it.
You could use a little tape, a weak rubber band, or something similar to
hold it together a little more firmly while riding but which would break
away fairly easily.

If you try to use an RCA plug, the connections to it -- where you have
to split to coax conductors apart -- will cause a much greater impedance
bump than the connector itself. Since your communications seem to be
short range, you should be able to get by with a pretty bad impedance
bump, though. It would probably have the least effect if it's close to
the rig rather than at the antenna end of the coax.

Roy Lewallen, W7EL

Ken Bessler wrote:

I'm looking for an antenna connector with the following
idea:

I want to mount a spare 2m/440 mobile antenna on my
race bike and use my FT-51R ht on my belt with the
deluxe remote mic on the handlebars.

Problem is that if I wreck, the radio will want to stay on
my belt but the coax going to the antenna won't! The mic
connector will pull out but the antenna connector (BNC)
will stay until something breaks. If I wreck, I may need my
HT to call for assistance (it's happened once before) I
need an inepensive 50 ohm pair of connectors that will slide
apart when pulled. Kinda like a push on F fitting but for
50 ohm RG-58 cable.

The only ones I've thought of are the F fitting or an RCA
connection. Anybody know the impedance of an RCA plug?

Are there push on BNC or 259 connectors? Cost matters.

--
Just my 2¢... 73 es gd dx de Ken KGØWX
Grid EM17ip, Flying Pigs #-1055
Proud builder & owner of Elecraft K2 #4913







Hal Rosser August 5th 05 12:22 AM

See there - stick with us hams - we are a bunch of cheap so-and so's -
We would have saved you $300 right off the bat.
Duct tape and bailing wire are big moneysavers.
:-)

"Ham op" wrote in message
...
Most likely his feet are more secure than ski boots. Serious riders use
cleats and clamps for the feet. If they crash the bike stays with them
until they kick out.

My pedals, cleats and shoes cost $300. No need for tape!! :-)

Boy, you guys are teaching me a lesson! I though Ham Radio was/is
expensive, but, serious cycling is almost as expensive.

Hal Rosser wrote:

OR - tape your feet and hands to the bike so it will stay with you.

"Roy Lewallen" wrote in message
...

I suggest filing the bumps off a BNC female. Without them, the connector
halves should fit snugly enough to stay together unless you tug on it.
You could use a little tape, a weak rubber band, or something similar to
hold it together a little more firmly while riding but which would break
away fairly easily.

If you try to use an RCA plug, the connections to it -- where you have
to split to coax conductors apart -- will cause a much greater impedance
bump than the connector itself. Since your communications seem to be
short range, you should be able to get by with a pretty bad impedance
bump, though. It would probably have the least effect if it's close to
the rig rather than at the antenna end of the coax.

Roy Lewallen, W7EL

Ken Bessler wrote:

I'm looking for an antenna connector with the following
idea:

I want to mount a spare 2m/440 mobile antenna on my
race bike and use my FT-51R ht on my belt with the
deluxe remote mic on the handlebars.

Problem is that if I wreck, the radio will want to stay on
my belt but the coax going to the antenna won't! The mic
connector will pull out but the antenna connector (BNC)
will stay until something breaks. If I wreck, I may need my
HT to call for assistance (it's happened once before) I
need an inepensive 50 ohm pair of connectors that will slide
apart when pulled. Kinda like a push on F fitting but for
50 ohm RG-58 cable.

The only ones I've thought of are the F fitting or an RCA
connection. Anybody know the impedance of an RCA plug?

Are there push on BNC or 259 connectors? Cost matters.

--
Just my 2¢... 73 es gd dx de Ken KGØWX
Grid EM17ip, Flying Pigs #-1055
Proud builder & owner of Elecraft K2 #4913









Fred W4JLE August 5th 05 01:07 AM

Yep, you folks spend a fortune to get a bike 10 pounds lighter, then carry
around a 20 pound chain to keep people from stealing it!

Every other sport takes place on a field designed for the sport. You guys
for the most part ride on the highways creating a hazard.

"Ham op" wrote in message
...
It's obvious that Fred doesn't ride. My bike costs more than many HF
rigs !!!

BTW, in a crash, the BNC should break apart and have the coax tear out.
Solution, carry a cell phone and leave the radio at the shack!

I carry a 2/440 HT.

+ + +

Fred W4JLE wrote:
I told Lance, and now I will tell you, if you get in my way in your

little
faggoty outfits and goofy helmets, I will run your ass over. Don't

worry, I
will call 911 and let them know where to pick up your traffic blocking

body.


"Ken Bessler" wrote in message
news:QrPHe.35144$Eo.25151@fed1read04...

I'm looking for an antenna connector with the following
idea:

I want to mount a spare 2m/440 mobile antenna on my
race bike and use my FT-51R ht on my belt with the
deluxe remote mic on the handlebars.

Problem is that if I wreck, the radio will want to stay on
my belt but the coax going to the antenna won't! The mic
connector will pull out but the antenna connector (BNC)
will stay until something breaks. If I wreck, I may need my
HT to call for assistance (it's happened once before) I
need an inepensive 50 ohm pair of connectors that will slide
apart when pulled. Kinda like a push on F fitting but for
50 ohm RG-58 cable.

The only ones I've thought of are the F fitting or an RCA
connection. Anybody know the impedance of an RCA plug?

Are there push on BNC or 259 connectors? Cost matters.

--
Just my 2¢... 73 es gd dx de Ken KGØWX
Grid EM17ip, Flying Pigs #-1055
Proud builder & owner of Elecraft K2 #4913









Tim Wescott August 5th 05 02:35 AM

No no. The bikes are enhancing the overall experience. It's the _cars_
that are creating a hazard.

Fred W4JLE wrote:

Yep, you folks spend a fortune to get a bike 10 pounds lighter, then carry
around a 20 pound chain to keep people from stealing it!

Every other sport takes place on a field designed for the sport. You guys
for the most part ride on the highways creating a hazard.

"Ham op" wrote in message
...

It's obvious that Fred doesn't ride. My bike costs more than many HF
rigs !!!

BTW, in a crash, the BNC should break apart and have the coax tear out.
Solution, carry a cell phone and leave the radio at the shack!

I carry a 2/440 HT.

+ + +

Fred W4JLE wrote:

I told Lance, and now I will tell you, if you get in my way in your


little

faggoty outfits and goofy helmets, I will run your ass over. Don't


worry, I

will call 911 and let them know where to pick up your traffic blocking


body.


"Ken Bessler" wrote in message
news:QrPHe.35144$Eo.25151@fed1read04...


I'm looking for an antenna connector with the following
idea:

I want to mount a spare 2m/440 mobile antenna on my
race bike and use my FT-51R ht on my belt with the
deluxe remote mic on the handlebars.

Problem is that if I wreck, the radio will want to stay on
my belt but the coax going to the antenna won't! The mic
connector will pull out but the antenna connector (BNC)
will stay until something breaks. If I wreck, I may need my
HT to call for assistance (it's happened once before) I
need an inepensive 50 ohm pair of connectors that will slide
apart when pulled. Kinda like a push on F fitting but for
50 ohm RG-58 cable.

The only ones I've thought of are the F fitting or an RCA
connection. Anybody know the impedance of an RCA plug?

Are there push on BNC or 259 connectors? Cost matters.

--
Just my 2¢... 73 es gd dx de Ken KGØWX
Grid EM17ip, Flying Pigs #-1055
Proud builder & owner of Elecraft K2 #4913









--

Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Services
http://www.wescottdesign.com

Ken Bessler August 5th 05 02:58 AM

OK, OK - let's drop it before someone living in a trailer
with a vanity callsign gets his feather's ruffled.....

For the record - I did get several good ideas. The best
was to simply not lock the BNC connector on the bayonets.

Sheilds up, you may flame away......
--
73 de Ken KGØWX - Flying Pigs #-1055
Elecraft K2 #4913



Fred W4JLE August 5th 05 03:00 AM

The bikes have no mirrors, lights etc. "Gotta save that weight" I had one
swerve to avoid a pothole, and sans a mirror pulled right in my path. I
managed to avoid him.



"Tim Wescott" wrote in message
...
No no. The bikes are enhancing the overall experience. It's the _cars_
that are creating a hazard.

..com



Tom Ring August 5th 05 03:57 AM

Ham op wrote:

It's obvious that Fred doesn't ride. My bike costs more than many HF
rigs !!!

BTW, in a crash, the BNC should break apart and have the coax tear out.
Solution, carry a cell phone and leave the radio at the shack!

I carry a 2/440 HT.

+ + +


Part of the problem may lie with how the average bicycle rider acts in
some places. I am not assuming you are a bad guy, but I saw a bike
rider folded in half laying in the street, yes he was dead, last year in
downtown Minneapolis and I was pleased.

We have a nasty buch of assholes riding in our downtown. I had one kick
by door becasue I didn't "yield" for him when I had the green light and
he had the red.

tom
K0TAR

Ham op August 6th 05 01:03 AM

A 20# chain!!! N E V E R !!!!!!!!!

If I'm not riding, it I'm transporting it!

Like an ICOM 756 Pro III, it always has a chaperone :-)

Fred W4JLE wrote:
Yep, you folks spend a fortune to get a bike 10 pounds lighter, then carry
around a 20 pound chain to keep people from stealing it!

Every other sport takes place on a field designed for the sport. You guys
for the most part ride on the highways creating a hazard.

"Ham op" wrote in message
...

It's obvious that Fred doesn't ride. My bike costs more than many HF
rigs !!!

BTW, in a crash, the BNC should break apart and have the coax tear out.
Solution, carry a cell phone and leave the radio at the shack!

I carry a 2/440 HT.

+ + +

Fred W4JLE wrote:

I told Lance, and now I will tell you, if you get in my way in your


little

faggoty outfits and goofy helmets, I will run your ass over. Don't


worry, I

will call 911 and let them know where to pick up your traffic blocking


body.


"Ken Bessler" wrote in message
news:QrPHe.35144$Eo.25151@fed1read04...


I'm looking for an antenna connector with the following
idea:

I want to mount a spare 2m/440 mobile antenna on my
race bike and use my FT-51R ht on my belt with the
deluxe remote mic on the handlebars.

Problem is that if I wreck, the radio will want to stay on
my belt but the coax going to the antenna won't! The mic
connector will pull out but the antenna connector (BNC)
will stay until something breaks. If I wreck, I may need my
HT to call for assistance (it's happened once before) I
need an inepensive 50 ohm pair of connectors that will slide
apart when pulled. Kinda like a push on F fitting but for
50 ohm RG-58 cable.

The only ones I've thought of are the F fitting or an RCA
connection. Anybody know the impedance of an RCA plug?

Are there push on BNC or 259 connectors? Cost matters.

--
Just my 2¢... 73 es gd dx de Ken KGØWX
Grid EM17ip, Flying Pigs #-1055
Proud builder & owner of Elecraft K2 #4913









Ham op August 6th 05 01:06 AM

Fred W4JLE wrote:

The bikes have no mirrors, lights etc. "Gotta save that weight" I had one
swerve to avoid a pothole, and sans a mirror pulled right in my path. I
managed to avoid him.



I assume you mean you had to step aside ...

Be careful regarding mirror comments. Mine is fastened to my helmet.
[Gotta keep the weight off the bike :-)


Ham op August 6th 05 01:10 AM

Tom Ring wrote:

SNIPPED

Part of the problem may lie with how the average bicycle rider acts in
some places. I am not assuming you are a bad guy, but I saw a bike
rider folded in half laying in the street, yes he was dead, last year in
downtown Minneapolis and I was pleased.

We have a nasty buch of assholes riding in our downtown. I had one kick
by door becasue I didn't "yield" for him when I had the green light and
he had the red.

tom
K0TAR


Hafta be kinds careful around here. Many Police Departments use officers
on Bicycles. It's much more difficult to munch a donut, hold a coffee
and pedal uphill.

Yes, bicyclists do have fatal accidents. I wonder if bicycle mobile is a
contributing factor?


geggi1 August 6th 05 08:23 AM

How about fixing your antenna to your helmet. You might look like an ET but
it will hopefully stay with you wreck.
"Ken Bessler" wrote in message
news:QrPHe.35144$Eo.25151@fed1read04...
I'm looking for an antenna connector with the following
idea:

I want to mount a spare 2m/440 mobile antenna on my
race bike and use my FT-51R ht on my belt with the
deluxe remote mic on the handlebars.

Problem is that if I wreck, the radio will want to stay on
my belt but the coax going to the antenna won't! The mic
connector will pull out but the antenna connector (BNC)
will stay until something breaks. If I wreck, I may need my
HT to call for assistance (it's happened once before) I
need an inepensive 50 ohm pair of connectors that will slide
apart when pulled. Kinda like a push on F fitting but for
50 ohm RG-58 cable.

The only ones I've thought of are the F fitting or an RCA
connection. Anybody know the impedance of an RCA plug?

Are there push on BNC or 259 connectors? Cost matters.

--
Just my 2¢... 73 es gd dx de Ken KGØWX
Grid EM17ip, Flying Pigs #-1055
Proud builder & owner of Elecraft K2 #4913





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