As an alternative to a trap vertical, you might consider a horizontal
trap dipole.

Probably cheaper than the Hustler and a pretty good performer if the
trees in the woods are high enough (at least 30 feet).

They come in different lengths based, in part, on the lowest design
frequency.

No radials or tuner required. Ultra simple.

73,

Chuck

Vinnie S. wrote:
Hi, I was looking to buy one of these. But running ground radials will be a
problem because the area is woods. I was looking to not using ground radials. I
do have a small running stream in the woods. Would a ground rod in the stream,
offer a good counterpoise that would eliminate the need for radials?

Vinnie S.