On Sun, 4 Sep 2005 12:18:40 -0000, "Dave" wrote:

that is what i said, but in regards to 'shorten the length' of the 80m part
it is a loading coil he needs.

The traps -do- shorten the overall length of the antenna. Because the
80-meter part -is- the total length, I would say the traps shorten it.
In other words, below their resonant frequency they are inductive and
function as loading coils.