Home |
Search |
Today's Posts |
|
#1
![]() |
|||
|
|||
![]()
There are undoubtedly official sources from the FCC, etc.
The best hand-held guide I could recommend would be the National Radio Club's "Night Pattern Book," a fantastic resource for MW DXers and broadcast listeners. Basically it is a book of maps of North America for each domestic broadcast frequency, with dots representing transmitting locations, and the night time radiation pattern around each. It's available from the following link: http://www.nrcdxas.org/catalog/books/ The 5th edition is sold out, but the new 2005-06 edition is scheduled to be out soon. Brent Taylor VE1JH Dave Pitzer wrote: Richard, Both you and Reg have given excellent answers and I thank you both. By the way, you mention directional patterns and nulls. Is there any place I can find polar graphs of commercial broadcast station's antenna patterns? Thanks, Dave P. |
#2
![]() |
|||
|
|||
![]() There are undoubtedly official sources from the FCC, etc. The best hand-held guide I could recommend would be the National Radio Club's "Night Pattern Book," a fantastic resource for MW DXers and broadcast listeners. Basically it is a book of maps of North America for each domestic broadcast frequency, with dots representing transmitting locations, and the night time radiation pattern around each. It's available from the following link: http://www.nrcdxas.org/catalog/books/ The 5th edition is sold out, but the new 2005-06 edition is scheduled to be out soon. Brent Taylor VE1JH Dave Pitzer wrote: Richard, Both you and Reg have given excellent answers and I thank you both. By the way, you mention directional patterns and nulls. Is there any place I can find polar graphs of commercial broadcast station's antenna patterns? Thanks, ====================================== Dave, http://www.nrcdxas.org/catalog/books/ Sounds exactly what you are looking for but may take some time to obtain. In the meantime, the basic groundwave radiation patterns of mediumwave broadcast antennas are either simple circles with the antenna at their centres, or heart-shaped with the antenna at the null. The first occurs when the antenna is a single vertical mast located near the centre of a large populated area. The second occurs when the antenna consists of a pair of masts, which radiate a very broad heart-shaped beam, located on one side of the populated area to be covered. Contour Maps of actual measured field strengths are useful when the basic groundwave patterns are distorted by the terrain, e.g., the existence of mountains, forests, rivers, built-up areas, high-rise cities, or seas, lakes or coastal regions. Radio frequency Field Strengths are usually measured in terms of "millivolts per meter" or in decibels relative to one volt per meter. ---- Reg. |
#3
![]() |
|||
|
|||
![]()
snip
In the meantime, the basic groundwave radiation patterns of mediumwave broadcast antennas are either simple circles with the antenna at their centres, or heart-shaped with the antenna at the null. The first occurs when the antenna is a single vertical mast located near the centre of a large populated area. The second occurs when the antenna consists of a pair of masts, which radiate a very broad heart-shaped beam, located on one side of the populated area to be covered. snip ---- Reg. Reg: I'm afraid you're way behind the practice on this one. In the US, there are many 4, 5 and 6 tower arrays providing as many nulls to protect co-channel stations. The UK got off easy with nationalized broadcasting, where the frequency and location was dictated by the government, and none of that nasty capitalism interfered. Here, the commercial interests are still fighting it out. Check and see if the KLIF website shows their pattern from a linear array of 5 towers just outside Dallas. -- Crazy George W5VPQ My real address is my ham call atARRL.NET The ATTGlobal is a SPAM trap. |
#4
![]() |
|||
|
|||
![]() "Crazy George" wrote I'm afraid you're way behind the practice on this one. In the US, there are many 4, 5 and 6 tower arrays providing as many nulls to protect co-channel stations. ================================= What proportion of US MF broadcasting stations have antennas consisting of more than two towers ? ---- Reg. |
#5
![]() |
|||
|
|||
![]()
Reg, G4FGQ wrote:
"What proportions of U.S. broadcasting stations have antennas consisting of more than two towers?" I don`t know but from my own experience, the number is large. A new applicant for a station must show he will not interfere with existing stations by limiting his radiation in the directions of the existing stations while providing minimum field intensity, 0.5 to 50 mV, depending on population, in the new service area. A two-tower array cannot satisfy some complicated pattern requirements. Most broadcasters want to provide more than 1 KW radiation in their areas. Well over one hundred channels in the medium wave broadcast band in North America allow that. There are well over 1000 regional medium wave broadcasters in North America. It is difficult to fit a new broadcaster in when he wants to use real power. Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI |
#6
![]() |
|||
|
|||
![]()
Richard Harrison wrote:
I don`t know but from my own experience, the number is large. I would guess that the majority of US AM antennas that I have seen with my own eyes have more than one element. -- 73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp |
#7
![]() |
|||
|
|||
![]()
Reg:
I don't have an accurate number for the entire country, but here in the local area, there is one clear channel station with a single radiator, a half dozen two tower arrays, two 3 tower arrays, five 4 tower arrays that I can recall off the top of my head. If you had asked a dozen years ago, I could have been more accurate. I don't think we have any 5 or 6 radiator arrays here locally, if so, I don't remember them. If my math is correct, that is a 50-50 split, so maybe half have more than 2 towers. -- Crazy George W5VPQ My real address is my ham call atARRL.NET The ATTGlobal is a SPAM trap. "Reg Edwards" wrote in message ... "Crazy George" wrote I'm afraid you're way behind the practice on this one. In the US, there are many 4, 5 and 6 tower arrays providing as many nulls to protect co-channel stations. ================================= What proportion of US MF broadcasting stations have antennas consisting of more than two towers ? ---- Reg. |
#8
![]() |
|||
|
|||
![]() "Crazy George" wrote I don't have an accurate number for the entire country, but here in the local area, there is one clear channel station with a single radiator, a half dozen two tower arrays, two 3 tower arrays, five 4 tower arrays that I can recall off the top of my head. If you had asked a dozen years ago, I could have been more accurate. I don't think we have any 5 or 6 radiator arrays here locally, if so, I don't remember them. If my math is correct, that is a 50-50 split, so maybe half have more than 2 towers. ======================================= Thanks George, I am amazed at the number of multi-tower MF antennas in the US. As you say, they are necessary to prevent co-channel interference, day and night, between a large number of broadcasters in the more densely populated regions of your vast country. ( Antenna salesmen have had a field day.) It is also interesting that the whole system is technically regulated by State and/or Central Government. It is not just a free-for-all for newcomers. I imagine the revenue comes solely from advertisers. Which makes me wonder what percentage of program time is allocated to adverts. Are such matters also regulated? Are any broadcast stations State or City owned? In this (UK) relatively densely populated country things settled down about 20 years ago. Few MF antennas have more than one tower (or masts as we call them). Although there is much broadcasting at MF for individual cities, most broadcasting takes place at FM VHF where 'capture effects' reduce interference from co-channel transmitters. It may be of interest that the BBC, still the World's finest broadcasting system, including its overseas services, no longer owns any transmitting stations, Mrs Thatcher quietly sold them off to a private party. Do some Googles for who the eventual owners are? ---- Reg. |
#9
![]() |
|||
|
|||
![]()
Reg Edwards wrote:
SNIPPED I imagine the revenue comes solely from advertisers. Which makes me wonder what percentage of program time is allocated to adverts. Are such matters also regulated? Are any broadcast stations State or City owned? $$$ from advertisers ... YEP! Amount of advertising time is regulated. I can't state with any authority, but it seems to be 15 to 20 minutes per hour. Ownership is generally private. International propaganda, err news, may be indirectly government controlled through a straw man corporation. Certain public service stations, e.g. WWV, are government 'owned'. An several additional non sequitor comments. In the USA, although we claim FREE ENTERPRISE, it is a government influenced economy via interest rates, international treaties, anti-trust regulations, etc. Finally, the USA is succumbing to a creeping Socialism. This is contrary to the words of John F Kennedy: "Ask NOT what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country." Forty-five years after that statement from President Kennedy a large portion of the population want the government to do everything for them. A Keag In this (UK) relatively densely populated country things settled down about 20 years ago. Few MF antennas have more than one tower (or masts as we call them). Although there is much broadcasting at MF for individual cities, most broadcasting takes place at FM VHF where 'capture effects' reduce interference from co-channel transmitters. It may be of interest that the BBC, still the World's finest broadcasting system, including its overseas services, no longer owns any transmitting stations, Mrs Thatcher quietly sold them off to a private party. Do some Googles for who the eventual owners are? ---- Reg. |
#10
![]() |
|||
|
|||
![]()
Reg, G4FGQ wrote:
"It is also interesting that the whole system is technically regulated by State and/or Central Government." In the beginning, there was no regulation. There were only wireless experimenters. Marconi invented the antenna which made the signal go far. Marconi`s antenna may have been seen as an elevated capactor plate. When the transmitter and receiver were each equipped with a plate, you had a coupling capacitor with the earth for a return path. The capacitor carries displacement current while the earth moves electrons.. Then, Marconi discovered the capacitor leads worked well enough without the plates, so plates were omitted. Marconi was soon using wireless for ship to shore communications. It was essential to safety of life at sea. When the Titanic sank on April 15, 1912, it had a Marconi operator aboard. The world was immediately aware of radio. Inept radio communications during the loss of the Titanic prompted the U.S. Congress to pass the Radio Act of 1912, which expanded on the Wireless Ship Act of 1910 which required all seafaring vessels to maintain 24-hour radio watch and keep contact with nearby ships and coastal radio stations. All radio communications were in code until Reginald Fessenden invented wireless telephony in 1906. In the early wireless days a lidtener had to understand code to make sense of wireless. The Radio Act of 1912 assigned three-letter and four-letter codes (call-letters) to radio stations and limited broadcasting to 340 meters. This jammed the signals. From the beginning, the U.S. Federal Government declared sole jurisdiction over radio as the waves don`t stop at state lines and must involve international cooperation. It`s the "Interstate Commerce Regulation Power" of the Federal Government. In 1920, KDKA in Pittsburgh, a Westinghouse station, transmitted the first commercial radio broadcast. In 1922, the U.S. Commerce Department allowed powerful stations to use 400 meters, as long as they only broadcast music. In 1925, A,C. Nielsen began reporting audience shares to advertisers, In 1925, the first soap opera (The Smith Family) was broadcast. In 1926, RCA, General Electric, and Westinghouse established The National Broadcasting Company (NBC). NBC operated two networks of stations (Red & Blue). In 1929, William S. Paley founded The Columbia Broadcasting System (CBS). In 1931, there were 40,000 U.S. TV sets, including 4,000 in New York City. In 1933, Edwin Armstrong introduced Frequency Modulation. The Communications Act of 1934 created the Federal Communicationsd Commission which regulates broadcasting. In 1936, The British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) debuted the world`s first television service with three hours of programming a day. In 1937, Edgar Bergen and Charlie MCCarthy debuted on NBC TV. We live in interesting times. Advertising pays for broadcasting in the U.S. except for some public support of non-commercial or almost non-commercial stations. Program time devoted to advertising on commercial stations was limited by the FCC to just a few minutes per hour before Carter became president. He started the deregulation process which has now run amok. Commercial announcements were the topic of "Saturday Night Live". Satirically, they entertain. Mrs. Thatcher may have sold the BBC`s distribution facilities, but since BBC has done so well programming, I hope the production facilities are still in the hands of those responsible and that they continue and grow their product. Who bought the BBC`s transmitters depends on how big the bargains were. If a windfall was readily available, I suspect the Queen, her relatives and allies may have been the buyers. Like Russia, I suppose, except with more care that the buyers seem not to be profiteers. My daughter lives in London and pays her tax to support the BBC. She now owns a 99-year lease on her flat in Westminster. Only leases are available. The right people are the ownwers and they aren`t selling. Her married name is Edwards too, but her husband is an American. They are both lawyers. Best regards, Richard harrison, KB5WZI |
Reply |
Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
Display Modes | |
|
|
![]() |
||||
Thread | Forum | |||
178 English-language HF Broadcasts audible in NE US | Shortwave | |||
Amateur Radio Newslineâ„¢ Report 1415 Â September 24, 2004 | Shortwave | |||
Amateur Radio Newslineâ„¢ Report 1415 Â September 24, 2004 | CB | |||
Amateur Radio Newslineâ„¢ Report 1402 Â June 25, 2004 | Shortwave | |||
214 English-language HF Broadcasts audible in NE US (01-NOV-03) | Shortwave |