Sound like your discribing my station setup. I also use a Delta loop in the
shape of a diamond with the highest point at approximately 70 feet and the
lowest opposite corner is about 40 feet, both above ground. Now it gets
interesting as this set up is likely about 5 feet lower than the closest
neighbouring amateur's basement floor is and I still out perform his
inverted V. But the my loop is a full wave on 80 meters and I have a rather
uneak piece of property. My soil is very good conductively and my ground
happens to be a creek bed with a 8 inch water pipe submerged in the creek
which runs all year round with about a foot of water over the pipe.
Also when I was looking for property I drove my van in to the property as
far as I could and call CQ on my mobile hf. Made a contact in Glasglow,
Moscow and Japan. I bought the property that afternoon. And I haven't
stopped enjoying the bands even when we are at the low side of a cycle. I've
also played with a number of antennas and always came back to the delta loop
or a four square. I'm planning on putting up a full wave delta loop for 160
meters this spring. My present loop is hooted up to a homebrew 4:1 balun
with 300 ohm foam then a 10 foot piece of 9913 coax to a At-180 Icom tuner
to a IC-706MKIIG. On a bad night I can make contacts about the Mississippe
to Hawai, on a good night Europe and the Globe. If you have the room they
are one of the best antennas for the money invested. But you still have to
have a good location and a good ground, if your missing either there isn't
an antenna in the world that will help you. By the way I'm 147 feet above
sea level and my closest neighbouring amateur is 177 feet and his antenna is
30 feet above that, but I still out preform him hands down on any and all
bands.

Anyway this is what it's all about, haveing fun and making new friends.
73...de ve7agw, Al
Vancovuer Island, BC


"Michael" wrote in message
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I get a lot of noise from my random wire antenna. It transmits very well
but is very noisy in receive. My neighbor put up a 280 foot loop antenna
which he feeds with ladder line. He feeds the ladder line from a 4 to 1
balun to coax. The coax comes from a tuner. His setup performs very well on
all bands down to 75 meters. I went over to his shack last night and
listened to his receiver on 75. I was really impressed with the lack of
noise. I can safely say the difference in noise was profound. He has this
loop surrounding his house at a 30 ft. height. It is arranged in a square.

Has anybody else had this experience with loops? It looks like I have room
to put up a triangular loop. Will this work as well?

Can I use the same tuner I have now and just feed a coax into a balun. Or,
should I put the balun in the tuner and come straight out with ladder
line? There is a lot of room in this tuner. It is an old remote controlled
tuner surplused from a ship.