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Roy Lewallen wrote:
Wes and Ian can probably point you to more possible causes for this measurement result -- they're the real experts on VNA measurements. Not I... I'm just trying to think acurately about it... I'd be very surprised if the VF really varies with frequency -- in theory, it can't, in an ideal coaxial cable. Greg had written: adjusted the VF on the distance to fault tool until I obtained the same physical length. The far end of the cable was terminated with an open circuit. I happened to start with the measurement frequency set to 1 MHz. Lo and behold, the VF needed to compute the same physical length was 72%, as you suggested. My own understanding is that VF should be constant with respect to frequency, so I decided to vary the test frequency. I should have left well enough alone. I picked 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, and 32 MHz. For those frequencies, I measured the following VFs: 1 MHz = 72% 2 MHz = 73% 4 MHz = 75% 8 MHz = 80% 16 MHz = 79% 32 MHz = 79% I'm rounding the VF to integer values, since I don't think that any more accuracy can be claimed in this setup. Since that result was a little surprising, I grabbed some mini 8 (8X) that was nearby, about 51.25 feet. The published VF is 78%, and I measured the following, at the same test frequencies: 1 MHz = 78% 2 MHz = 78% 4 MHz = 79% 8 MHz = 79% 16 MHz = 80% 32 MHz = 80% With this cable, the VF appeared much more constant across the 1 to 32 MHz range. Is there an explanation that fits with my measurements? Since Greg's test setup measured a much more constant VF for the mini-8, it doesn't seem that the open-circuit termination is causing much error (note also that the largest deviation for the BF is at the lowest frequency, where fringing C would have the least effect). This seems to bring us back to Greg's method of computing "distance to fault" from measurements of R and X at one end. Does that method involve any assumptions about idealized cable behavior that could create an *apparent* change in the computed VF? -- 73 from Ian GM3SEK 'In Practice' columnist for RadCom (RSGB) http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek |
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