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Reg, Tarmo,
sorry for the delay, because I have been sick for a few days.. I am using some 3000 volts and some 300 volts screen-grid supply. That should lead to some 5400 volts p-p And yes, for the moment I am using L and c values comparable to those mentioned by Tarmo. (designed for a loaded Q of around 12 as recomended by the ARRL handbook) However the inductor is becoming quite hot, so I was wondering what could be done to improve efficiency, without neglecting harmonic suppression. I used Reg's program to recalculate things a couple of times and to get a Q of around 12. However I could only realize this by entering a phase-shift of about 90 degrees, which in turn gave me the 'strange' C and L values... However somehow (and do I feel stupid !) I do not succeed in getting 'normal' values when using Reg's program.... Maybe his Q value is another value than mentioned by the ARRL ? Arie. |
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Arie,
The only two ways I can think of to reduce coil heating/losses is to lower the loaded Q and increase the unloaded Q. I don't remember if you told us what frequency this amp was for, but I have seen coils wound from 1/4 inch copper tubing, or flat straps.For lower frequencies you could consider using powdered iron toroids, perhaps several epoxied together, and wind them with #16 or #14 wire. I don't know how large your coil is, but for 80 meters, dimensions like 2 inch diameter and 5 inches long air core also come to mind. Have you looked at construction articles in the ARRL, RSGB, or other handbook? Tam/WB2TT "arie" wrote in message om... Reg, Tarmo, sorry for the delay, because I have been sick for a few days.. I am using some 3000 volts and some 300 volts screen-grid supply. That should lead to some 5400 volts p-p And yes, for the moment I am using L and c values comparable to those mentioned by Tarmo. (designed for a loaded Q of around 12 as recomended by the ARRL handbook) However the inductor is becoming quite hot, so I was wondering what could be done to improve efficiency, without neglecting harmonic suppression. I used Reg's program to recalculate things a couple of times and to get a Q of around 12. However I could only realize this by entering a phase-shift of about 90 degrees, which in turn gave me the 'strange' C and L values... However somehow (and do I feel stupid !) I do not succeed in getting 'normal' values when using Reg's program.... Maybe his Q value is another value than mentioned by the ARRL ? Arie. |
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Arie,
I took a look at some handbooks to see exactly how the coils for their high power amplifiers were made. (Personally, I chickened out at about 600V). Anyhow, for a bandswitching transmitter: A) All of them separated the coil into 2 or 3 segments. B) Averaging about 6 designs, the 10 - 20 meter coil was wound with 3/16 or 1/4 inch copper tubing. In one case silver plated. C) the remaining coil was most often wound with #10 copper wire; in one case on 3 toroids glued together. I had once calculated the Qs for inductors to use in antenna traps, and unless I messed up, the coils described above would have unloaded Qs of at least 400. Tam/WB2TT |
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