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Big Endian February 24th 06 02:00 PM

Q about balanced feed line
 
How does one check the balance between two parallel feed wires into a
doublet antenna. Neon bulbs or some sort of meter gizmo?

tnx

d

Roy Lewallen February 24th 06 04:24 PM

Q about balanced feed line
 
That topic was discussed in some detail on this newsgroup just a few
weeks ago. Do a search in groups.google.com of this newsgroup for the
topic "unbalance indicator".

Roy Lewallen, W7EL

Big Endian wrote:
How does one check the balance between two parallel feed wires into a
doublet antenna. Neon bulbs or some sort of meter gizmo?

tnx

d


Reg Edwards February 24th 06 04:38 PM

Q about balanced feed line
 
How does one check the balance between two parallel feed wires into
a
doublet antenna.


===========================================

Just go out into the garden and look up at the antenna.

If each half of the doublet is of about the same length, and both
halves are about the same height above ground, then the parallel pair
of wires are balanced.
----
Reg.



Amos Keag February 24th 06 04:49 PM

Q about balanced feed line
 
Big Endian wrote:

How does one check the balance between two parallel feed wires into a
doublet antenna. Neon bulbs or some sort of meter gizmo?

tnx

d


YEP!!

An RF Ammeter will do just fine


Roy Lewallen February 24th 06 05:32 PM

Q about balanced feed line
 
Amos Keag wrote:

YEP!!

An RF Ammeter will do just fine


Balance requires that the currents in the two wires be equal in
magnitude and opposite in phase (or direction). How do you connect an RF
ammeter to determine this?

Roy Lewallen, W7EL

chuck February 24th 06 05:41 PM

Q about balanced feed line
 
Wouldn't the clamp-on type ammeter as discussed previously provide that
information (provided a section of twin lead small enough to fit the
clamp were used?

Chuck

Roy Lewallen wrote:
Amos Keag wrote:


YEP!!

An RF Ammeter will do just fine



Balance requires that the currents in the two wires be equal in
magnitude and opposite in phase (or direction). How do you connect an RF
ammeter to determine this?

Roy Lewallen, W7EL


Reg Edwards February 24th 06 06:11 PM

Q about balanced feed line
 

"Roy Lewallen" wrote
Balance requires that the currents in the two wires be equal in
magnitude and opposite in phase (or direction). How do you connect

an RF
ammeter to determine this?

=====================================

It's unbelievably easy Roy, you just pass both wires together through
a clamp-on ammeter.
----
Reg.



Ian White GM3SEK February 24th 06 06:22 PM

Q about balanced feed line
 
Reg Edwards wrote:
How does one check the balance between two parallel feed wires into

a
doublet antenna.


===========================================

Just go out into the garden and look up at the antenna.

If each half of the doublet is of about the same length, and both
halves are about the same height above ground, then the parallel pair
of wires are balanced.


In your opinion.

But the original questioner wants to measure what's *really* happening.


--
73 from Ian GM3SEK 'In Practice' columnist for RadCom (RSGB)
http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek

Cecil Moore February 24th 06 07:37 PM

Q about balanced feed line
 
Big Endian wrote:
How does one check the balance between two parallel feed wires into a
doublet antenna. Neon bulbs or some sort of meter gizmo?


The easiest way is to use a large sampling toroid such
that the balanced line can be fed through the toroid.
A ten-turn sampling coil will indicate any unbalance.
Note that the balanced line needs to be centered with
respect to the toroid and needs to be moved along the
feedline to obtain maximum accuracy. Ideally, the toroid
needs to be located at a standing wave current maximum
point. Since my choke-balun is always located at a current
maximum point, I can easily monitor my feedline balance.

You can also use smaller toroids on each line and then
superpose the two readings. But the two toroids need to
be identical which is no small requirement.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

Cecil Moore February 24th 06 07:39 PM

Q about balanced feed line
 
Reg Edwards wrote:
If each half of the doublet is of about the same length, and both
halves are about the same height above ground, then the parallel pair
of wires are balanced.


What if one is broken and you don't know it?
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp


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