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Anyone know how to make a simple lightning arrester (Homebrew) that really
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==================== Anyone know how to make a simple lightning arrester (Homebrew) that really work in case of lightning. |
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![]() "Mohd Nazry Bin Mustapa" wrote in message ... Anyone know how to make a simple lightning arrester (Homebrew) that really work in case of lightning. the most basic one is a spark gap. these have been used since the first days of long telegraph lines. just position two sharp pointed metal pieces a small distance apart, connect one side to the cable and the other to a good ground. you want the distance as small as possible, but wide enough so your normal transmission power doesn't create an arc. NOTE: a lightning arrester WILL NOT WORK if you don't have a good ground. IT IS NOT A REPLACEMENT FOR A GOOD GROUND SYSTEM! All a lightning arrester does is limit the voltage difference between signal carrying wires and the nearby ground it is connected to, you must properly connect all grounds together to get any benefit from any kind of lightning arrester. |
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David Robbins wrote:
SNIP the most basic one is a spark gap. these have been used since the first days of long telegraph lines. just position two sharp pointed metal pieces a small distance apart, connect one side to the cable and the other to a good ground. you want the distance as small as possible, but wide enough so your normal transmission power doesn't create an arc. SNIP Remember, there is still a significant voltage across the spark gap before it ignites and during conduction. A 1/16 inch, or a 1.5 mm, gap will sustain ~1000 volts before igniting and support several hundreds of volts during conduction. The best solution, disconnect all antennas when not in use. DD, W1MCE |
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![]() "Mohd Nazry Bin Mustapa": Anyone know how to make a simple lightning arrester (Homebrew) that really work in case of lightning. "David Robbins": the most basic one is a spark gap. these have been used since the first days of long telegraph lines. just position two sharp pointed metal pieces a small distance apart, connect one side to the cable and the other to a good ground. you want the distance as small as possible, but wide enough so your normal transmission power doesn't create an arc. The usual practice for radio antennas is to place a series capacitor downstream (towards the radio set) from the spark gap to dispense with the DC and low-frequency components of the lightning strike. In crude, fixed-pitch ASCII art, it would look like this: | | Antenna ---------+--------| |----------- To Radio | | | SPARK V Blocking GAP ^ Capacitor | Ground ---------+---------------------- The size of the capacitor is a compromise between not disrupting the RF circuitry and coupling the low-frequecy energy from the strike into the radio. Making the capacitor reactance in the order of a few ohms at the lowest operating frequency generally should work for 50-ohm coax. Jim, K7JEB, Glendale, AZ |
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Antenna ---------+--------| |----------- To Radio | | | SPARK V Blocking GAP ^ Capacitor | Ground ---------+---------------------- PS: The breakdown voltage of the capacitor should be 10 times that of the spark gap. For a 1KV spark gap, that would give 10 KV. JEB |
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There's no such thing. It's going to be a bit of work and money to do
anything effective. "Mohd Nazry Bin Mustapa" wrote in message ... Anyone know how to make a simple lightning arrester (Homebrew) that really work in case of lightning. |
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K7JEB wrote:
| | Antenna ---------+--------| |----------- To Radio | | | SPARK V Blocking GAP ^ Capacitor | Ground ---------+---------------------- PS: The breakdown voltage of the capacitor should be 10 times that of the spark gap. For a 1KV spark gap, that would give 10 KV. JEB 2uF at 10kV, quite a capacitor. That would be 6 ohms or so on topband. As I understand it, there is nothing that can work if a direct lightening strike occurs. We are talking megavolts and thousands of amps. Way beyond anything an amateur could build. The best we can hope for is to dissipate charge build up on the aerial and ensure that there is no more than a kilovolt or so at the input to the rig caused by the (field) effects of a nearby strike. A spark gap that can conduct a lightening strike would be the size of a small truck. The only way to make sure you have a working station after a lightening strike on your aerials is to take out good insurance. vy 73 Andy, M1EBV |
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Mohd Nazry Mustapa wrote:
"Anyone know how to make a simple lightning arrester (Homebrew) that really work in case of lightning?" I`ve found shorted (folded) antennas are less susceptible to lightning overload than are open-circuit antennas. A folded VHF monopole fed by coax and well grounded at the tower top is nearly immune to lightning. Coax, inside, rejects common-mode propagation of lightning energy. Coax, outside, needs good grounding to make a good path around (bypass for) protected equipment. The equipment needs direct low-impedance grounding so that most surge energy is dropped across the coax, not the equipment. Coils of extra coax may be used to raise the impedance of the outside of the coax. Equipment is still vulnerable to excess differential voltage on the power wires. Perhaps, excess common-mode voltage too. Manufacturers make brute-force L-C pi-network low-pass filters for each power wire connected to the equipment. These can be homebrewed if desired. They are important in delaying the surge on the power source lines to give time for the arresters time to spark across, giving protection to the equipment. Arresters need to be fast acting and placed to protect line-to-line and line to ground. These low-pass filters and arrestors are suitable for power and control wires, not for antenna wires in most cases. I`ve used lots of gas tubes on audio and control lines but never on a coax cable where I believe they are superfluous. I`ve used tower lighting RF chokes for the inductor in the low-pass powerline filters to get the needed current carrying capability, and various breakdown devices on the input and outpur of the filter. MOV`s work well. They are fast and cheap but may require replacement at times. Power lines are susceptible to dangerous surges. Filters reduce the bandwidth of energy that must be handled by the suppressor, just as the folded antenna or short-circuit 1/4-wave stub across an antenna limits the bandwidth of lightning energy that it has to accept. Lightning and other related surges are just enormous noises. They can be suppressed with the same techniques used with weaker noise. The equipment must be sturdy to endure a lightning strike. Arresters may be compared to sturdy noise clippers. Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI |
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Effective lightning protection can be done in the amatuer station for a
reasonable cost. Most though, don't do so. "Andy Cowley" wrote in message ... As I understand it, there is nothing that can work if a direct lightening strike occurs. |
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