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Jimmie D June 4th 06 04:05 AM

Choke /BALUN
 
I want needinfo on the type of cores do I need to use with RG58 and RG 214
to make a choke type BALUN at 2m. I am building a vertical dipole out of 1
inch al tubing. coax will pass through the bottom half othe dipole with the
sheild fastend at the middle of the bottom piece and cneter conductor
fastened to the top piece of al. Initial test indicate I have RF on the
shield and need some decoupling. Winding the coax into a coil certainly
helped but this has prevented me from placing the antenna in a fiberglass
tube the way I had planned.



Cecil Moore June 4th 06 04:47 AM

Choke /BALUN
 
"Jimmie D" wrote:
I want needinfo on the type of cores do I need to use with RG58 and RG 214
to make a choke type BALUN at 2m. I am building a vertical dipole out of 1
inch al tubing. coax will pass through the bottom half othe dipole with the
sheild fastend at the middle of the bottom piece and cneter conductor
fastened to the top piece of al. Initial test indicate I have RF on the
shield and need some decoupling.


For single band operation, a simple decoupling stub or sleeve will
probably work. This is discussed in the ARRL Antenna Book.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp



John Popelish June 4th 06 05:37 AM

Choke /BALUN
 
Jimmie D wrote:
I want needinfo on the type of cores do I need to use with RG58 and RG 214
to make a choke type BALUN at 2m. I am building a vertical dipole out of 1
inch al tubing. coax will pass through the bottom half othe dipole with the
sheild fastend at the middle of the bottom piece and cneter conductor
fastened to the top piece of al. Initial test indicate I have RF on the
shield and need some decoupling. Winding the coax into a coil certainly
helped but this has prevented me from placing the antenna in a fiberglass
tube the way I had planned.


For the RG58, each Steward HFB143064-300 (sorry for the ridiculous
link length):
http://www.steward.com/web_part_no.a...=HFB143064-300
provides about 180 ohms choke impedance.

Each slightly longer and in a lower frequency ferrite, 28B0591-200:
http://www.steward.com/web_part_no.a...rt=28B0591-200
provides about 500 ohms choke impedance.

For the RG214, each Steward HFB259128-100:
http://www.steward.com/web_part_no.a...=HFB259128-100
provides about 120 ohms of choke impedance.

Each 28B1020-100:
http://www.steward.com/web_part_no.a...rt=28B1020-100
provides about 300 ohms of choke impedance.

You will have to string these on the coax before terminating it.


Ian White GM3SEK June 4th 06 09:23 AM

Choke /BALUN
 
John Popelish wrote:
For the RG58, each Steward HFB143064-300 (sorry for the ridiculous link
length):
http://www.steward.com/web_part_no.a...20Board%20Leve
l%20and%20Cable%20Core%20Products&family=Ferrite% 20Cores%20for%20Cables%
20-%20%20Wiring%20Harnesses%20-%20Connectors&product=High%20Frequency%20
Solid%20Ferrite%20Cores%20for%20Round%20Cables&pr ogroup=1.%20Round%20and
%20Cylindrical%20Cores&part=HFB143064-300
provides about 180 ohms choke impedance.


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might become broken in transit. You only need to copy-and-paste the long
URL into their web page, and "TinyURL" does exactly what it says.

The above example comes right down to:
http://tinyurl.com/n6bt9


--
73 from Ian GM3SEK 'In Practice' columnist for RadCom (RSGB)
http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek

Will June 4th 06 10:08 AM

Choke /BALUN
 

How do you figure the lower "coaxial sleave" dimentions. My project is
converting/cutting down a old model PD83 (Phelps Dodge brass skirt
coaxial, aprox 50mHz) to 2 meters.

And I did use the ferrite bead on the J pole to cancel out the RF on
the coax, but do not know which core specs.


Cecil Moore June 4th 06 07:29 PM

Choke /BALUN
 
"Will" wrote:

How do you figure the lower "coaxial sleave" dimentions.


It's usually 1/4WL long. The theory is to turn that 1/4WL of
feedline into a transmission line where the currents on the
outside of the original shield are balanced by the inside
shield on the sleeve which balances the antenna currents.
It functions over a certain single bandwidth.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

Owen Duffy June 4th 06 10:32 PM

Choke /BALUN
 
On Sun, 04 Jun 2006 18:29:11 GMT, "Cecil Moore"
wrote:

....

What's with the HTML format Cecil?

Owen
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Cecil Moore June 5th 06 03:30 AM

Choke /BALUN
 
"Owen Duffy" wrote:
What's with the HTML format Cecil?


I've switched over from Netscape to Outlook Express and have
no idea what I am doing. I can't seem to get Outlook Express
to compose anything in Courier fixed font.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp



Jimmie D June 5th 06 04:26 AM

Choke /BALUN
 

"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
.net...
"Jimmie D" wrote:
I want needinfo on the type of cores do I need to use with RG58 and RG 214
to make a choke type BALUN at 2m. I am building a vertical dipole out of 1
inch al tubing. coax will pass through the bottom half othe dipole with
the sheild fastend at the middle of the bottom piece and cneter conductor
fastened to the top piece of al. Initial test indicate I have RF on the
shield and need some decoupling.


For single band operation, a simple decoupling stub or sleeve will
probably work. This is discussed in the ARRL Antenna Book.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp


Would be difficult to incorporate into my design



Jimmie D June 5th 06 04:38 AM

Choke /BALUN
 

"Jimmie D" wrote in message
. ..
I want needinfo on the type of cores do I need to use with RG58 and RG 214
to make a choke type BALUN at 2m. I am building a vertical dipole out of 1
inch al tubing. coax will pass through the bottom half othe dipole with the
sheild fastend at the middle of the bottom piece and cneter conductor
fastened to the top piece of al. Initial test indicate I have RF on the
shield and need some decoupling. Winding the coax into a coil certainly
helped but this has prevented me from placing the antenna in a fiberglass
tube the way I had planned.

Thanks all, found what I was looking for at Wireman.




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