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Chris W June 6th 06 05:31 AM

sealing coax holes in outside wall
 
Can anyone tell me what the official name of the putty they use to seal
the holes you run your coax through so bugs don't crawl in the wall or
water doesn't get in? I like to get all my hardware type items from
mcmaster.com. I'm sure they have it, if I just know what it is called I
can find it on their website.



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Dave Platt June 6th 06 05:50 AM

sealing coax holes in outside wall
 

In article fy7hg.52579$9c6.12825@dukeread11,
Chris W wrote:

Can anyone tell me what the official name of the putty they use to seal
the holes you run your coax through so bugs don't crawl in the wall or
water doesn't get in? I like to get all my hardware type items from
mcmaster.com.


The box I have here says "One roll RTE62 R-type re-enterable sealing
material". RTE62 seems to be a 3M product type.

A similar product seems to be Google-able under the term "electrical
duct sealant" or "mastic". GB Electrical DS-110 is one type that
comes up... about $3/pound in quantity.

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Chris W June 6th 06 06:08 AM

sealing coax holes in outside wall
 
Dave Platt wrote:

"electrical duct sealant" or "mastic".


I have some mastic but I thought that was just for sealing around
connectors not to seal the hole the in the wall the coax comes through.


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Brian MW3BAU / 2W0BDW June 6th 06 12:44 PM

sealing coax holes in outside wall
 

"Chris W" wrote in message
news:fy7hg.52579$9c6.12825@dukeread11...
Can anyone tell me what the official name of the putty they use to seal
the holes you run your coax through so bugs don't crawl in the wall or
water doesn't get in? I like to get all my hardware type items from
mcmaster.com. I'm sure they have it, if I just know what it is called I
can find it on their website.



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I use a silicone based sealant designed for double glazing fitting. It
stands up to UV rays and stops bugs, rain etc.



John Passaneau June 6th 06 12:49 PM

sealing coax holes in outside wall
 
I use the Duct seal. It works well, your can get it off when needed and is
the standard stuff for that sort of work around here in the electrical
industry.


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"Chris W" wrote in message
news:fy7hg.52579$9c6.12825@dukeread11...
Can anyone tell me what the official name of the putty they use to seal
the holes you run your coax through so bugs don't crawl in the wall or
water doesn't get in? I like to get all my hardware type items from
mcmaster.com. I'm sure they have it, if I just know what it is called I
can find it on their website.



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I use a silicone based sealant designed for double glazing fitting. It
stands up to UV rays and stops bugs, rain etc.




Jimmie D June 6th 06 03:00 PM

sealing coax holes in outside wall
 

"Chris W" wrote in message
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Can anyone tell me what the official name of the putty they use to seal
the holes you run your coax through so bugs don't crawl in the wall or
water doesn't get in? I like to get all my hardware type items from
mcmaster.com. I'm sure they have it, if I just know what it is called I
can find it on their website.



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Pull the cable out of the wall from hte outside by a couple of inches, place
a good dollop of silicon caulk ( the same stuff you use to caulk around your
windows) about an inch or two from the wall then pull the cable back inside.
This will make a custom fitted grommet . Dress the cable downward from the
hole so water run away from the hole. Think drip loop



Jim - NN7K June 7th 06 12:41 AM

sealing coax holes in outside wall
 
Must agree, Duct seal or DUX seal (been a few
years) try Greybar, W.W. Grainger, and other
parts houses- think couple ##s cost around $5-10
and probably last an individual a lifetime
(or take excess to next swap meet, and probably
sell it for about what you paid for it!)
Jim NN7K


John Passaneau wrote:
I use the Duct seal. It works well, your can get it off when needed and is
the standard stuff for that sort of work around here in the electrical
industry.



J. Mc Laughlin June 7th 06 02:00 AM

sealing coax holes in outside wall
 
I too buy from electrical supply house. The stuff also makes a perfect
backstop for air-pistol. Comes in one pound blocks. Great stuff.
73, Mac N8TT

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"Jim - NN7K" wrote in message
. com...
Must agree, Duct seal or DUX seal (been a few
years) try Greybar, W.W. Grainger, and other
parts houses- think couple ##s cost around $5-10
and probably last an individual a lifetime
(or take excess to next swap meet, and probably
sell it for about what you paid for it!)
Jim NN7K


John Passaneau wrote:
I use the Duct seal. It works well, your can get it off when needed and

is
the standard stuff for that sort of work around here in the electrical
industry.





Sal M. Onella June 7th 06 04:36 AM

sealing coax holes in outside wall
 

"Chris W" wrote in message
news:fy7hg.52579$9c6.12825@dukeread11...
Can anyone tell me what the official name of the putty they use to seal
the holes you run your coax through so bugs don't crawl in the wall or
water doesn't get in? I like to get all my hardware type items from
mcmaster.com. I'm sure they have it, if I just know what it is called I
can find it on their website.


I was thinking "electrician's putty" or similar -- what we used to call
"monkey ****" in the Navy, but I couldn't get a good match on Google for
those terms. While mulling this over, I remembered also Plumbers Putty.
While generally not used for coax, I have used it under sinks and in the
garage for sealing around pipe penetrations. What I have is light tan in
color. It stays soft and flexible (but I don't know what sunlight does to
it or whether it will take paint). It's cheap and available and might be
just what you need.



Roger June 7th 06 05:19 PM

sealing coax holes in outside wall
 
On Tue, 6 Jun 2006 20:36:46 -0700, "Sal M. Onella"
wrote:


"Chris W" wrote in message
news:fy7hg.52579$9c6.12825@dukeread11...
Can anyone tell me what the official name of the putty they use to seal
the holes you run your coax through so bugs don't crawl in the wall or
water doesn't get in? I like to get all my hardware type items from
mcmaster.com. I'm sure they have it, if I just know what it is called I
can find it on their website.


I use the "expandable foam" that comes in a can about the size of a
spray paint can. There are two types. The yellow foam that expands
and gets hard which also is sensitive to UV which will cause it to
change color (darken). Don't use this around areas where the pressure
of expansion can cause problems like sealing around a door.

They also have a "soft/flexible" version that is white and costs a bit
more. It's what I use to block the large conduit between the tower
and basement. http://www.rogerhalstead.com/ham_files/cablebox.htm
Shows the conduit at the tower and coming in the basement. I just
squirted the stuff in. I wasn't worried about it being pretty, just
effective. With care you can be a lot more artistic. :-)) It's easy
to apply and easy to remove when necessary. Bugs and critters appear
to not like the stuff. I like it far better than the putty.

The yellow foam is a tad over $3 USD a can while the white, flexible
stuff is $4 or $5 a can. Both are usually available at Lowe's,
Builder's Square, and hard ware stores.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com
I was thinking "electrician's putty" or similar -- what we used to call
"monkey ****" in the Navy, but I couldn't get a good match on Google for
those terms. While mulling this over, I remembered also Plumbers Putty.
While generally not used for coax, I have used it under sinks and in the
garage for sealing around pipe penetrations. What I have is light tan in
color. It stays soft and flexible (but I don't know what sunlight does to
it or whether it will take paint). It's cheap and available and might be
just what you need.


Dave June 7th 06 06:40 PM

sealing coax holes in outside wall
 
Self Vulcanizing Tape

Mike Y wrote:
When I used to work for a power company, they used a 'tape' that was
like a strip of rubber just under maybe 1/8" thick. When you pulled it off
the roll, you had to remove a paper backing, then 'stretch' the tape to
activate it. Then when it was wrapped around a connection, it would
'cure' into a solid mass.

I think RS used to sell something similar, but have no idea what it would
be called.

You might try some industrial electrical supply houses.

Mike




Mike Y June 7th 06 08:04 PM

sealing coax holes in outside wall
 
When I used to work for a power company, they used a 'tape' that was
like a strip of rubber just under maybe 1/8" thick. When you pulled it off
the roll, you had to remove a paper backing, then 'stretch' the tape to
activate it. Then when it was wrapped around a connection, it would
'cure' into a solid mass.

I think RS used to sell something similar, but have no idea what it would
be called.

You might try some industrial electrical supply houses.

Mike



Jim - NN7K June 8th 06 12:19 AM

sealing coax holes in outside wall
 
Think it scotch #23 tape (and several other
numbers . Home Depot and Lowes has the stuff
(Not to be confused with "Coax Connector Sealant"
Radio shack # 278-1645, which is also great for
sealing connectors against the weather). Great for
weatherproofing, but needs to be covered (it
is ultravilot sensitive) But- NOT to use it to
plug holes! Dux Seal (a.k.a. "Monkey ****" is
MUCH BETTER-- Jim NN7K

Mike Y wrote:
When I used to work for a power company, they used a 'tape' that was
like a strip of rubber just under maybe 1/8" thick. When you pulled it off
the roll, you had to remove a paper backing, then 'stretch' the tape to
activate it. Then when it was wrapped around a connection, it would
'cure' into a solid mass.

I think RS used to sell something similar, but have no idea what it would
be called.

You might try some industrial electrical supply houses.

Mike



George June 8th 06 03:25 AM

sealing coax holes in outside wall
 

Jim - NN7K wrote:
Think it scotch #23 tape (and several other
numbers . Home Depot and Lowes has the stuff
(Not to be confused with "Coax Connector Sealant"
Radio shack # 278-1645, which is also great for
sealing connectors against the weather). Great for
weatherproofing, but needs to be covered (it
is ultravilot sensitive) But- NOT to use it to
plug holes! Dux Seal (a.k.a. "Monkey ****" is
MUCH BETTER-- Jim NN7K

Mike Y wrote:
When I used to work for a power company, they used a 'tape' that was
like a strip of rubber just under maybe 1/8" thick. When you pulled it off
the roll, you had to remove a paper backing, then 'stretch' the tape to
activate it. Then when it was wrapped around a connection, it would
'cure' into a solid mass.

I think RS used to sell something similar, but have no idea what it would
be called.

You might try some industrial electrical supply houses.

Mike




George June 8th 06 03:34 AM

sealing coax holes in outside wall
 

Chris W wrote:
Can anyone tell me what the official name of the putty they use to seal
the holes you run your coax through so bugs don't crawl in the wall or
water doesn't get in? I like to get all my hardware type items from
mcmaster.com. I'm sure they have it, if I just know what it is called I
can find it on their website.



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George
WB3HUH SAYS:

Try DOW Chemical's "Great Stuff ", a "Tripple Expanding Polyurethane
Foam Sealant"
This comes in a paint spray size can and is applied withan attachable
tube.
It sticks to everything, as it goes in as a liquid then expands to fill
even large holes.
It firms up and seals tight. Cable companies around here use it. Even
works well on cinder block



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Roger June 8th 06 07:05 AM

sealing coax holes in outside wall
 
On 7 Jun 2006 19:34:53 -0700, "George" wrote:


Chris W wrote:
Can anyone tell me what the official name of the putty they use to seal
the holes you run your coax through so bugs don't crawl in the wall or
water doesn't get in? I like to get all my hardware type items from
mcmaster.com. I'm sure they have it, if I just know what it is called I
can find it on their website.



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KE5GIX


George
WB3HUH SAYS:

Try DOW Chemical's "Great Stuff ", a "Tripple Expanding Polyurethane
Foam Sealant


I'm surprised to see Dow with such a product when it competes with Dow
Corning's compounds which are sold under the DAP as well as Dow
Corning names.

This comes in a paint spray size can and is applied withan attachable
tube.
It sticks to everything, as it goes in as a liquid then expands to fill
even large holes.
It firms up and seals tight. Cable companies around here use it. Even
works well on cinder block

The various forms of expandable foam are easier to use, and to me work
far better than the putty and self vulcanizing tape. The Silastic
RTVs (TM) work well, but may be a bear to get out.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com


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Jim - NN7K June 8th 06 05:30 PM

sealing coax holes in outside wall
 


Roger wrote:


The various forms of expandable foam are easier to use, and to me work
far better than the putty and self vulcanizing tape. The Silastic
RTVs (TM) work well, but may be a bear to get out.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com


Altho, these may be easier to use than dux seal,
beware- if the stuff smells like Vinagar (as in
Ascetic acid) , you may be contaminateing your
coax, as is my understanding. And, MOST RTV's
have this feature (contaminateing your coax)!
Not a good situation! as info, Jim NN7K

Jimmie D June 8th 06 08:58 PM

sealing coax holes in outside wall
 

"Jim - NN7K" wrote in message
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Roger wrote:


The various forms of expandable foam are easier to use, and to me work
far better than the putty and self vulcanizing tape. The Silastic
RTVs (TM) work well, but may be a bear to get out. Roger Halstead (K8RI
& ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com


Altho, these may be easier to use than dux seal, beware- if the stuff
smells like Vinagar (as in
Ascetic acid) , you may be contaminateing your coax, as is my
understanding. And, MOST RTV's
have this feature (contaminateing your coax)!
Not a good situation! as info, Jim NN7K


Not usually a problem when going through a wall unless the outer insulation
is broken, but RTV is not may favorite for this. Plain old caulk works great
unless you have a big void to fill.



Roger June 8th 06 10:13 PM

sealing coax holes in outside wall
 
On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 16:30:08 GMT, Jim - NN7K
wrote:



Roger wrote:


The various forms of expandable foam are easier to use, and to me work
far better than the putty and self vulcanizing tape. The Silastic
RTVs (TM) work well, but may be a bear to get out.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com


Altho, these may be easier to use than dux seal,
beware- if the stuff smells like Vinagar (as in
Ascetic acid) , you may be contaminateing your
coax, as is my understanding. And, MOST RTV's
have this feature (contaminateing your coax)!
Not a good situation! as info, Jim NN7K


Jimmie already go this one, but if the seal is pretty much out in the
open it will not contaminate the coax jacket. Normally the stuff
won't bother the jacket any way, just don't apply directly to copper
or aluminum braid as the Copper will turn green.

OTOH there are versions available in Silicon that are
non-contaminating and there are also latex/water based versions. Most
of the DAP (TM) ( made by DC) is water based although you can specify
Silicon. Once cured there is not a great deal of difference although
there are some.


Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com


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